Talk:Origin (Evanescence demo album)

2003 re-release by epic?
Does anyone have any factual information about the 2003 re-release of this album by Epic? The track list goes:
 * 1) "Origin"
 * 2) "Whisper"
 * 3) "Imaginary"
 * 4) "My Immortal"
 * 5) "Where Will You Go"
 * 6) "Field of Innocence"
 * 7) "Even in Death"
 * 8) "Anywhere"
 * 9) "Where Will You Go (Reprise)"
 * 10) "Lies"
 * 11) "Away from Me"
 * 12) "Eternal"
 * 13) "Listen To The Rain"
 * 14) "Demise"
 * 15) "Wash It All Away"
 * 16) "Before the Dawn"
 * 17) "Bring Me To Life (Mixman Mike's Club Mix)"
 * 18) "Missing"
 * 19) "Heart Shaped Box (live acoustic Nirvana cover)"

With numbers 17, 18 and 19 labeled as bonus tracks.

Or is this perhaps an onofficial release which is actually a copy? I own this version two times (some incident), and I'm quite worried if one is or even both are copies. Even more because the one has other shades of red/orange and the text on the back look a bit blurry. But the CD looks quite real. One of the two was even sealed.

If anyone has any information, could you also please add it to the article?

--213.10.20.7 18:30, 18 January 2006 (UTC)

basically no this is not a rerelease, the only copies of these are either orignals or bootlegged copies


 * This is a fake release. You have been lied. For more information read this. Origin - Fake Re Release A r m a n d o  ( talk 07:35, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

Important Bad Link
The link referencing the statement that the band prefers people to download or copy the CD rather than buy it is no good. I consider this citation pretty important. 98.231.219.116 (talk) 23:44, 21 April 2009 (UTC)


 * What do you mean it is no good? It is a transcript of a radio interview they did, and the link seems to work fine. — Huntster (t • @ • c) 01:02, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

Mono "Origin" version
A copy I have of Origin is in mono playback, appears recorded different then other versions, can information be added? Also, the article "The Split" (MTV) is no longer there to view and is seen on the albums page. Hallow88 (talk) 23:53, 19 October 2016 (UTC)
 * No. See this discussion. Primefac (talk) 18:27, 25 October 2016 (UTC)

Outtake and number originally created
Hallow88 has a point adding "citation needed" tags to those statements. The only sources I found for the number of original copies made are Spin and MTV, giving the number as "a few thousand" and "approximately 50", respectively. The track listing at Loudwire does not mention the Anywhere outtake, and the College Times says there are 11 tracks, the first of which is a 35-second instrumental, which would refer to "Origin". Huntster, what are the sources for those pieces of information? Huon (talk) 22:03, 26 October 2016 (UTC)


 * I wish I could remember where the 2,500 figure came from. I think the MTV piece is confusing Origin with the Sound Asleep EP figures...those were literally burned onto recordable CDs on a computer, whereas Origin was professionally pressed...if not professionally designed and arranged. Regarding the "Anywhere" outtake...old CD players used to have a rewind/fast-forward feature, not simply a track forward/track back. "Anywhere" was track 0, you would rewind from the "Origin" lead-in to access it. — Huntster (t @ c) 22:35, 26 October 2016 (UTC)

MTV stated 50 copies in "The Split" article but that is no longer able to be viewed. As far as the "citation needed", if the information is correct it still needs a source.Hallow88 (talk) 23:21, 26 October 2016 (UTC)


 * The MTV source has been rescued via the Wayback Machine. However, the outtake information looks like origiginal research to me. If it cannot be sourced, it should be removed. Huon (talk) 23:48, 26 October 2016 (UTC)

It should be suggested track 8 "Anywhere" of track time 5:18 or 6:03 be sourced as well for the actual release in question.Hallow88 (talk) 23:58, 26 October 2016 (UTC)


 * I'm unwatching this article, since it shall never provide any manner of comprehensive information and would probably be better of deleted. Folks would be better served in using the evanescencereference.info site, to be honest. — Huntster (t @ c) 00:09, 27 October 2016 (UTC)

If no source is available, then how do explain where this information is coming from? Citation tag was placed, the information wasn't removed, official source is needed to leave it. Also, the www.Evanescence.com official website says "previously unreleased demo" itself right now.Hallow88 (talk) 03:29, 27 October 2016 (UTC)

Origin-credit information
On Origin demo album it is seen that cover photo is by: Rocky Gray. This information is not on the article page. Does anyone claim to have a copy that doesn't show the credit information of the cover photo or different? Article can also be shown for the added information.Hallow88 (talk) 01:01, 29 October 2016 (UTC)

2500 copies
What was the date of the concert (concerts) exactly [citation needed]. 2500 copies seems like large amount for a unknown band. Need source of Bigwig Enterprise website sales or website image existing. Hallow88 (talk) 01:48, 18 January 2017 (UTC)

What I meant actually was they may have sold the album at the concert, but not the whole 2500. Also, why would they sell their demo, it would take away the whole purpose to send to record labels to get noticed, so the 50 copy version most likely existed. The question is which versions are which and what is the correct match. Hallow88 (talk) 02:09, 21 January 2017 (UTC)

Page moved to (demo album)
Page was moved to a more accurate title, "Evanescence demo album", as per cited sources, most notably the two co-founders' statements, this is a compilation of demos, not an album. Other demo album articles with demo disambiguation, for reference: Rage Against the Machine (demo album), Sons of Alpha Centauri (demo album). Lapadite (talk) 03:01, 26 June 2023 (UTC)