Talk:Origins of anarchism

I was tempted to add this quotation as a preamble to the entry, but probably it is too long:


 * ''Had I plantation of this isle, my lord,
 * ''And were the king on't, what would I do?
 * ''I' the commonwealth I would by contraries
 * ''Execute all things; for no kind of traffic
 * ''Would I admit; no name of magistrate;
 * ''Letters should not be known; riches, poverty,
 * ''And use of service, none; contract, succession,
 * ''Bourn, bound of land, tilth, vineyard, none;
 * ''No use of metal, corn, or wine, or oil;
 * ''No occupation; all men idle, all:
 * ''And women too, but innocent and pure;
 * ''No sovereignty,
 * ''All things in common nature should produce
 * ''Without sweat or endeavour; treason, felony,
 * ''Sword, pike, knife, gun, or need of any engine,
 * ''Would I not have; but nature should bring forth,
 * ''Of it own kind, all foison, all abundance,
 * To feed my innocent people.


 * ''-- GONZALO , the honest old counselor, The Tempest'', William Shakespeare

I suppose it's worth some mention, though. Mike Serfas 21:10, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

Taoism and anarchism
first a quote: "Daoists in return lived an anarchist lifestyle" ... anarchist lifestyle? What about anarcho-punks or punks in general. How can anyone relate the lifestyle of a Daoist with the lifestyle of those to groups? Beyond that Taoism wasnt an political ideology in the sense of the later anarchism, but more of, a lifestyle and a metaphysical and epistemological philosophy. Historicly Taoism was the state religion of China ... state religion! Beyond that taoists functioned on several occations as councillors for the kings and governers of old China. --Fjulle 10:40, 29 September 2006 (UTC)


 * Take for example this section: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taoism#Tang_Dynasty_.28618.E2.80.93907.29 --Fjulle 10:41, 29 September 2006 (UTC)

Zeno and anarchism
Zeno kept the individual in high regard, no doubt, but the groundings of his ethics is quite remarkable. If a person wants to be happy the only way to do this is through communion with the Logos (some kind of world spirit). And of course Zeno knew the way to do this! To not be oneself is the only way to be a part of nature, of the whole, and then you are wise and happy. Over and all both the part about Taoism and Zeno is taken from a positive perspective compared to anarchism. If we really want to identify these two with anarchism it should be both for what they have in common and what they do not. I guess the wikipedia article about Zeno isnt very precise so ill have to find sources to all of this (i dont know about the things he got in common with anarchism). The article about Taoism is on the other hand full of at least the parts that it hasnt got in common with anarchism. --Fjulle 10:40, 29 September 2006 (UTC)

Bakunin
Why wasn't Mikhail Bakunin mentioned in this section? The so-called 'Father of Modern Anarchism' appears to be missing. I would add it myself but do not consider myself knowedgleable enough on the history of his contributions.