Talk:Origins of rock and roll/Archive 1

ROCK AND ROLL QUESTION
HI,JUST WANTSD TO KNOW THE EFFECT OF ROCK AND ROLL TO PLANTS,HUMANS AND ANIMALS.IS THERE A STUDY THAT HAS BEEN DONE FOR THE SAME. REGARDS ELIZABETH,KENYA —Preceding unsigned comment added by 196.207.30.214 (talk) 10:21, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

Propose a merge with "Rock music"
I think it makes more sense to have this article be encompassed within the Rock music article and then explain within that article that the typical convention is to have "rock and roll" or "rock 'n' roll" be used for musicians of the late 40s-early 60s and "rock" for the mid-late 60s (essentially around the time of the release of SGT. PEPPER) and onward. If we really WANT a lengthy discourse on the minutiae of how it evolved musically, then there's already a discussion at What is the first rock and roll record? that serves that purpose. GBrady (talk) 14:20, 19 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Strongly oppose suggested merger with Rock music, but, as alternative suggestion, support merger with the (correctly in my view) separate article on Rock and roll. The article on First rock and roll record needs to remain as a stand-alone article, as it is essentially a timeline and does not explain how the music evolved, only when.   Ghmyrtle (talk) 15:05, 19 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Oppose I agree with Ghmyrtle's comments above, this could merge with rock and roll, but first rock and roll record needs to stay.--Sabrebd (talk) 16:05, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

"rock and roll" as a musical genre
Many of the early references to rock and roll or rocking and rolling referred to in this article are used as verbs and as such would not qualify as referring to a musical genre. The earliest use of "rock and roll" as a noun that I know of is in the lyrics of the song "Rock It For Me" recorded by Ella Fitzgerald in 1938. I am not an expert on these matters so further exploration might turn up earlier uses of the term as a noun. Johnwadeulrich (talk) 18:05, 20 May 2009 (UTC)johnwadeulrich
 * Early uses of the term are at First rock and roll record. I'm grateful for the Ella Fitzgerald reference (recorded in 1937 according to this source), so have added it to that article.  Ghmyrtle (talk) 21:37, 20 May 2009 (UTC)