Talk:Origins of the Hermit Friars of the Order of Saint Augustine and Their True Establishment Before the Great Lateran Council

Nomination
Can someone remove the footballer. Regards --Devokewater @ 12:32, 16 August 2020 (UTC)
 * What do you mean? If you’re referring to the DYK nomination, I can’t remove it. Editors with more than 5 DYK nominations (like myself) need to review a DYK beforehand and post proof of it in their nomination. SL93 (talk) 14:29, 16 August 2020 (UTC)
 * SL93 (talk) see above, the reference to:   Reviewed: Paul Callaghan (Gaelic footballer)  it's in the wrong place. Regards --Devokewater @  15:33, 16 August 2020 (UTC)
 * That is where the mention is supposed to go and how the DYK template is set up. Every single DYK nomination is like that. SL93 (talk) 15:43, 16 August 2020 (UTC)
 * thanks Devokewater @ 15:51, 16 August 2020 (UTC)

Redirects
Is it OK to ask for the two redirects to be deleted, via RfD?


 * Origin of the Hermits Friars of the Order of St. Augustine and His Real Institution Before the Great Lateran Council
 * Origins of the Hermit Brothers of the Order of Saint Augustine and Their True Establishment Before the Great Lateran Council

Regards --Devokewater @ 12:23, 16 August 2020 (UTC)
 * I would be fine with that. SL93 (talk) 15:52, 16 August 2020 (UTC)
 * I tagged the second one for speedy deletion, but I left the first one because that link is what the AfD is referring to. SL93 (talk) 15:55, 16 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Never mind. I don't think either will qualify for speedy deletion. I'm not sure how to complete a double nom RfD. SL93 (talk) 15:58, 16 August 2020 (UTC)

== "Origins of the Hermit Brothers of the Order of Saint Augustine and Their True Establishment Before the Great Lateran Council" listed at Redirects for discussion == A discussion is taking place to address the redirect Origins of the Hermit Brothers of the Order of Saint Augustine and Their True Establishment Before the Great Lateran Council. The discussion will occur at Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 August 19 until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion. <b style="color:#77b">Devoke</b><b style="color:#fb0">water</b> @  15:18, 19 August 2020 (UTC)

Was Saint Francis an Augustinian friar or not?
I’m not sure if I am asking this correctly or in the correct place.. The article says the 1618 work argued the controversial claim the Saint Francis of Assisi probably was an Augustinian friar. The sources of the work later were shown to lack credibility, but part of its claim (that Augustine was a hermit) was shown to be true anyway. However the claim about Saint Francis was never resolved. Was Saint Francis an Augustinian friar or not? Or is this still in dispute? Vigilfree (talk) 08:35, 4 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Hi there. As the main author of this article I’m going to go with ‘no’ as the answer to that. Actually I don’t know for sure because I haven’t researched it. But I can tell you that the sources I’ve looked at in writing this article take the view that this was a bold and rather ridiculous claim made on spurious evidence in the heat of a very bad-tempered dispute, and nothing more. If you want an answer that will stand up in court you’d need to ask an expert in St Francis. All the best Mccapra (talk) 08:46, 4 September 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for your reply. I only contribute to Wikipedia occasionally. I'm guessing the article will not be changed regarding this until a more knowledgable editor steps in, if ever. So be it.Vigilfree (talk) 05:55, 4 October 2020 (UTC)
 * There’s no reason to change it, other than for clarity. The article doesn’t say St Francis was an Augustinian, it says that this book claimed he was. It is factually true that the book claimed this, and the article makes clear (I hope) that there was no solid basis for the claim. Mccapra (talk) 06:16, 4 October 2020 (UTC)