Talk:Orkut/Archive 2

History
The dates make no sense. The first paragraph says Google offered to by Friendster in 2003, was declined and so then decided to do its own thing, and as a result launched Orkut in 2002 (a year earlier)? That makes no sense, in that something in the future does not typically cause something to happen in the past. Ifette (talk) 15:48, 2 May 2011 (UTC)

Ditto! Any contemporaneous new reports to confirm when it actually launched? I think it's possibly just the year that is wrong - 2004 seems the likely candidate. Marktristan (talk) 16:55, 9 June 2011 (UTC)

Update: Have confirmed the launch date and added citation. Marktristan (talk) 17:04, 9 June 2011 (UTC)

The article says: "Soon Orkut emerged as the No. 1 social networking website in the industry". This is wrong. Right?

If orkut was launched on 22 jan 2004, why only 30 jan 2007 (not 22) it has a doodle-like logo celebrating it's 3rd anniversary? 201.72.160.176 19:03, 30 January 2007 (UTC)and the 25% owner name is agent adeel

I had read in a local newspaper sometime back that the founder wanted to find his old lost love. So he designed Orkut so that everyone could keep in touch with their loved ones... Can anyone confirm this statement???? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Fayazbhai (talk • contribs) 04:09, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

I have an issue with the way the site is named in this article. The official Google's policy regarding the name is that it should start with small 'o', not capital 'O'. Capital 'O' is for Orkut as person; the site is called 'orkut'. I would go ahead and start editing all sections immediately, but first I'd like to let the people know that this is the case. Yes, I am currently a member of orkut engineering team. Vlad Patryshev


 * There seems to be some contradictory evidence here: http://m.orkut.com/JoinCreate Ciotog (talk) 14:03, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

Popularity in brazil
1. Taking third party(alexa) information is always better than first party(orkut) or second

2. major problem with orkut data is: default country selected while registering is US. many users dont bother to cahnge, hence US users will be exaggerated 3. orkut wants to gain popularity in US, hence it has further link in their US data. 4. alexa says current visits against registered users stated by orkut. hence alexa is better. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Vinay412 (talk • contribs) 06:08, 26 February 2007 (UTC). Vinay412 06:09, 26 February 2007 (UTC) Orkut Is Best Communitie In This World —Preceding unsigned comment added by 115.42.76.155 (talk) 05:15, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Alexa lists orkut popularity in Brazil at #16 http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/orkut.com - the Wikipedia article  is way out of dateOttawahitech (talk) 02:34, 29 November 2009 (UTC)

user manipulating
user:huntscorpio seem to be manipulating page since long as seen in history.

1. a data on % of users is of least significance for a new visitor to this page and he is updating that daily, which is completely unnecessary. and it should be stopped immediately. i think last digit of percentage of users is completely unnecessary for an encyclopedia user.

2. i have added extra data (from alexa, see popularity in brazil discussion). and did not delete any existing data. he is not allowing to do even that, though im not deleting any of his data. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Vinay412 (talk • contribs)


 * Keep the articles talk page for relevant topics. Not for launching personal attacks. Just refine your English bro while you are here. Its difficult to understand what you are saying as it is. As for your 'manipulating' its called updating. The last digit of the percentage is not important? who says? Try multiplying 1000000 users with 0.01 percent. It would be around 10000 users difference. Understand why it is relevant? It is not point of what you are adding or deleting. Its just a point of relevance and making sure that the article doesn't sound like an advertising banner. And again leave all your comment signed using the  ~ . And if you want to talk about history and contributions just look at your contributions. All you ever did after joining Wikipedia was to add the alexa part and kept on reverting others edits. &mdash; 16:39, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

its % that matters, not absolute figures(very common sense that you lack). so 0.01% is nothing but 0. if i say something about you its confined to this perticular article, hence i posted it here.03:51, 28 February 2007 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Vinay412 (talk • contribs)

your comment "And if you want to talk about history and contributions just look at your contributions" is personal attack which is not at all related to orkut. kindly take it back(delete it) Vinay412 04:18, 28 February 2007 (UTC)


 * Just see yourself talking :P you quarrel like kid(which is what you are). Common sense is not so common you see. If what you are doing is common sense then I'm better off without it. I'm not reverting your edit because atleast one of us should show some maturity. When I first added the demographic data to orkut I rounded-off the percentage to one decimal place. Some wise soul decided that we need more precision and updated it to two decimal places. I did not revert nor changed that format because thats the format in which it was available on orkut. So I think that it is more accurate rather than we rounding it off. Since then I have been simply updating. And regarding your 'personal attacks' - What goes around, comes around bro. Nobody's gonna remove anything. &mdash; 18:14, 28 February 2007 (UTC)


 * i striked out personal comments. and this topic has not yet reached consensus as you are continuing updating everyday. if you continue "unnecessary updating" - donno if its in policies, but its common sense, i will have to revert your changes. thanks. Vinay412 03:55, 1 March 2007 (UTC)


 * Sup kid? :D you are using talk pages for experimenting now? There is always the sandbox to try out the strikeout option. Wikipedia does not run on common sense. It runs on the basic wheels called policies that a have a general agreement of the Admins, Sysops and editors. Any reversion you do, I'll consider them vandalism from now on and report. &mdash; 16:36, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

Hey guys, let's try and be nice here. I know neither of you agree, but there is no need for personal attacks. Discussions about disagreements are much nicer if everyone is civil, which I'm sure both sides could be a little bit more of. If you try explaining your feelings for your edits calmly and rationally, before you edit the page, this won't turn into an edit war, which makes things better for everyone. -- Nataly a 01:03, 2 March 2007 (UTC)


 * no cooling down is necessary, plz post your opinion - is it necessary to update last decimal places daily? is it relevant? everyone wheck if any other data he manipulated, my watchlist is overflowing. and why does he starts preaching about wiki, if i strike out his wiki lectures also then there will be no reply at all :P Vinay412 05:06, 2 March 2007 (UTC)


 * Dude it was fun for one or two days but now its getting pretty serious. I do not want a serious altercation here. Ultimately what both of us want is a better article. So seriously think before you post or do something okay? Thats all I ask. And write all you want but DO NOT change my comments or strike them out. I'm not going waste time on this silly thing thats going on here. I have better things to do. So long... &mdash;  06:38, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

Unfounded statement
Majority of educated Indians believe that Orkut digital social network should be moderated heavily in a place where people lack the maturity and misuse its facilities.

No one has the right to make such a statement without a strong backing of facts and figures. I have changed the begining of the line to:

Some Indians believe that... —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 61.1.69.223 (talk) 15:17, 12 March 2007 (UTC).

Argh!weasel words ===>"some indians beleive that" 212.71.32.86 22:20, 19 August 2007 (UTC)

Terms of Service link
I can understand that Wikipedians may be suspicious of new external links as Wikipedia spam is a real problem. However, the WikiSummaries summary of the Orkut TOS adds benefit to Wikipedians wishing to know more about their rights regarding the service; it covers information which is typically outside of the scope of Wikipedia articles. Further, if the scope of Wikipedia's Orkut article were to change, the WikiSummaries document is provided under the GNU FDL and is therefore compatible to have information from it incorporated into Wikipedia. Geneffects 13:48, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

Unreliable
The Orkut entry (as of 11:54 am PDT 3/26/07) is ridiculously badly written and organized and flouts the NPOV policy right and left. Is there a way to flag this entry as "unreliable" or "challenged as to its accuracy"? Wroush 18:55, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

I agree to this Wroush... Do we have a "unreliable" tag? Mugunth 06:03, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

Orkut Star of Authenticity
Any thoughts on this. Is this given by orkut to any one who claims to be star or is it given by orkut on some payment by the celebrity? Srikanth \talk \contribs 16:24, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

Added essay tag.
This article does not cite the sources properly, Hence I've added the tag Please give your comments on that. I also added another tag, as a lot of entries here are either original research or a personal view of the author on Orkut. Please help wikipedia by correcting them. Mugunth 06:00, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

Brushup
A few tidbits of this article seemed a bit... chatty. I cleaned it up a bit. Revert if thou wish, but the one-sentence-per-line thing was killing me... - Daisen¡i 14:51, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

Additions to the first paragraph
Something like in Facebook's first paragraph. Refer to history diffs.

Nareshov 18:30, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

Is it just me or does the current "intro" paragraph seem to say the same thing ("Orkut is more popular in Brazil and India than in the US") about 4 times? --Calvin November t/c on 22:30, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

Infobox?
Does this article not need a infobox? (like the one in Facebook)? Nareshov 16:07, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

Fair use rationale for Image:Orkut UnderConstruction.jpg
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Number of Users?
Number of users? "As of 9th April, 2007, the number of members was over 49 million[citation needed]." On the About Orkut page: [.php]

"In fact, orkut's top 50 communities, with more than 37 million total members and nearly 1.3 million daily visitors, have no illegal content whatsoever."

That is the top 50 only, but that's still a difference of 12 million.

Fair use rationale for Image:Orkut.Logo.png
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Exaggerated Claim
"Orkut goes a step further by permitting the creation of easy-to-set-up simple forums (called "communities") of users."... how is this any different than Facebook groups or Myspace groups. It's the same thing, just a different name. Users can creat groups which have "simple forums" among other things.

cleanup tag
The article suffers from a lot of OR and POV contents. May be I'll cleanup when I get time.. Meanwhile, be bold and edit it yourself... Mugunth 18:11, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

The figure of 67 million users is not sourced, and the only sources that cite that figure that I can find on a cursory Google search are blogs that link back to Wikipedia. 130.70.97.246 16:28, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

oi gdkrt676  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 189.31.63.203 (talk) 00:05, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Fair use rationale for Image:Orkut logo.gif
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orkut application's
Orkut applications started appearing on user's profile from 16th april 2008 as clearly listed on official orkut blog also. and started with 18 applications and then later on more apps are added. anantshri (talk) 18:54, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

Do we really need to put something like the best application ever thing's in wikipedia, i think it hurt's its neutrality. removing the edit by previous poster claiming blood search as the best application. anantshri (talk) 19:39, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

India
Why is it not mentioned that Orkut has signed a deal with the Indian Police to arrest those who post anti-Shivaji/Anti-Bal Thakaray stuff? it was all over the papers, and several guys got arrested from Bangalore, Delhi, et all. --Rsrikanth05 (talk) 09:10, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

Nomination time!
I am a regular user of Orkut, and can vouch for the accuracy of content in the article (which of course, doesn't count!). But, except for the recent events (which will not remain recent in a fast-moving world), all other facts are supported well by facts. So, I believe some of the matter (particularly pertaining to various episodes of hacking or virus-spread) is unrequired that could be dealt with in a different article, say, "important incidents related to Orkut"

Most importantly, it is a well-written and an excellent article.

I'm planning to nominate it for a good article, at least, if no one does that in a few days. It has all the potential to become a featured article, and deserves to be one considering the currency of the topic.

Regards.

 —Ketan Panchal  t aL K   19:46, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

The English in this article is awful. Good luck with that! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.137.142.166 (talk) 12:30, 3 January 2009 (UTC)

Major cleanup
I've just done a major cleanup in this article. I removed most of the unsourced material, and also some innacurate statements. For example, the scrap alert doesn't pop up immedeately when the scrap is sent, but in the first okut page loaded after the user received the scrap. Another factual error was the one suggested in the last paragraph of the "Privacy" sub-section. It was just not true. I'm Brazilian, me and many orkut friends of mine set their profiles to be private, and the same happens to many other Brazilian users. I kept some unsourced portions because of their relevance. I'm keeping this page at my watchlist, so that I can quickly revert the adding of unsourced or POV material. Victão Lopes I hear you... 21:02, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

Technology
I'm wondering what technology is used. .aspx is hinting at Microsoft .NET, but they might also be running it on Mono. Guaka (talk) 11:25, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
 * .NET the orkut worms were made in VB.NET W32/xxx —Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.78.78.23 (talk) 20:26, 28 October 2009 (UTC)

foreign language citations
citations 4-8 link to Portuguese language sources. They should be removed, as should any content relying on them. they certainly don't belong in the article's introduction. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.36.165.169 (talk) 05:54, 18 April 2010 (UTC) Insert non-formatted text here  Insert non-formatted text here   Insert non-formatted text here

== foreign language sources sources 5-8 appear to be in a foreign language (likely Portuguese). isn't it mandatory to only list English sources? --Nonchablunt (talk) 14:12, 5 May 2011 (UTC)

and what the heck is a "scrap" ?
--Jerome Potts (talk) 16:50, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

I agree with this: the article talks about "scraps" multiple times, without actually first explaining what a scrap is. This should be explained in the first paragraph under the topic "Features". - The Mackstar 02:46, 7 February 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by AtomicSource (talk • contribs)

Citations needed flag
Hello!

I just removed the citations flag, it was from a year ago. Now I see at least 50 references in this article, that should be sufficient to remove the article flag... If specific statements are in need of citation, perhaps that should be dealt with individually.

Thanks A. Ward (talk) 18:51, 10 January 2011 (UTC)

rafa2389@hotmail.com
Esse e o meu mail que tenho no orkut com vcs mas ñ entra poderiam me informa o pq eu ñ consigo entra na minha conta obriga o meu outro mail é rafaela2389@hotmail.com —Preceding unsigned comment added by 186.212.32.125 (talk) 13:20, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

India
First statement after India heading (Orkut) makes no sense:
 * "On October 10, 20t Manager, Manu Rekhi,[37] on the Orkut internal blog."

Anyone can guess what it tries to say? Doru001 (talk) 11:48, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

Changing Alexa Ranking
In Alexa Orkut has 96th ranking. Wikipedia tells 95. I am changing the ranking.--Tito Dutta (Talk) 09:04, 28 June 2011 (UTC)

More information needed in Theme section
More information needed in |Theme section. New Orkut theme. Old Orkut theme etc... --Tito Dutta (Talk) 09:07, 28 June 2011 (UTC)


 * Tht== Is Goa a language? ==

I was revising the language section of the article, but, I can not understand - is Goa a language? It is a city of India. I have not made any change. Looking forward for discussion. Thanks! --Tito Dutta (Talk) 09:17, 28 June 2011 (UTC)
 * I've removed it. The main language spoken in Goa appears to be Konkani, which appears [not to be supported] by Orkut. -- Q Chris (talk) 11:57, 17 November 2011 (UTC)
 * That's good! --Tito Dutta (Send me a message) 11:33, 19 November 2011 (UTC)

Too much detail
Tidied it up a big but still far too much detail for a main page. Especially all the malware stuff. Can anyone else help edit that out. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 137.191.228.131 (talk) 14:28, 6 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Which portion you are talking about? --Tito Dutta (Send me a message) 12:23, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

Pronunciation?
Nobody's heard of it where I live. How do you pronounce it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.147.122.14 (talk) 11:35, 24 January 2014 (UTC)
 * What? -- Q Chris (talk) 11:51, 24 January 2014 (UTC)

Time for tense change?
Google's shut it down. Is it time to change "is" to "was"? &mdash; Supuhstar * &mdash; 01:31, 6 July 2014 (UTC)


 * It's not time to change "is" to "was" yet. The service will continue until 30 September 2014, with no changes in functionality although new members are no longer being accepted. For now, though, the community still exists. Canadiana (talk) 03:49, 6 July 2014 (UTC)
 * I see many articles written in the past tense so that no one needs to go back and edit them later. Daniel.Cardenas (talk) 16:35, 7 July 2014 (UTC)

Google / Globomail
What about talk let, this source of use the mark, was repeaned in doubt, out bussiness. This is at the July 30 of 2014, likes Gmail — Preceding unsigned comment added by 189.83.1.149 (talk) 15:44, 24 October 2014 (UTC)