Talk:Ormiston College

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Edit request from Ingridcliff, 17 January 2011
I have been hired to work with Ormiston College on reviewing their written materials. Their Wiki entry needs revision and the College has asked me to request the following changes.

Please change the introductory para from:

Ormiston College, located in Ormiston, Queensland, Australia, is an independent, co-educational, non-denominational Christian college, for students from preparatory school to year 12. An Early Childhood centre was opened halfway through 2007.

The College is committed to excellence in education, with a curriculum designed to provide a pathway for all students to graduate with a Senior Certificate and a University Entrance Score.

A broad range of subjects offers unlimited opportunities for students to achieve, whilst the extensive co-curricular program maximises the performance of each student to produce a well rounded education in a happy, caring environment.

To:

Ormiston College is an independent, coeducational, non-denominational Christian college, for students from preparatory school to year 12. Located in Ormiston, in the Redland City Council area of Queensland, Australia, Ormiston College is approximately 25 kilometres southeast of Brisbane.

Reason for the change: Information is more factually correct & does not include marketing hype.

Please change history section from:

In November 1985, a meeting was convened in which the concept to establish an independent school in the area was outlined. A site of 16 acres (65,000 m2) was subsequently purchased in late 1986.

In 1988, Ormiston College opened with 162 students in Years 1 to 5. By the end of that year the numbers had increased to 198.

By 1989 an additional 29 acres (12 ha) of land was purchased and six classrooms added to accommodate a school of 346.

An administrative block and music and art centre were added in 1990, and with the addition of Year 7, the Junior School was complete with 402 students.

The first Year 8 students entered the school in 1991, and by 1994 Ormiston College had 725 students enrolled in Years 1 to 11.

The Library Resource Centre, catering for students in Prep to Year 12, was opened in 1995 followed in 1996 by the opening of the Marsson Aquatic Centre.

The Lingo Lin Performing Arts Theatre was opened in 1998 and 2000 saw the first intake of students to our Pre School.

The Somerset Sports Centre opened in 2004.

In July 2007 the college welcomed the opening of the Ormiston College Early Learning Centre (child care).

At the conclusion of 2008 all buildings at Ormiston College were air-conditioned.

The College now stands on 20 hectares of land. It currently has 635 students in Prep to Year 7 and 806 students in Years 8 to 12, a total of 1441 students overseen by 126 full time staff and 10 part time staff.

Dr Max Howell held the position of Interim Headmaster in 1994. Late 2008 through to Mid 2009, 4 new classrooms were under construction to provide the school with more well equipped computer classrooms.

David Hosking took up the position of Headmaster in January 1995 and retired in December 2005 after 11 years of outstanding service to the community of Ormiston College.

In January 2006 Brett Webster was employed at the role of Headmaster. Brett previously held the position of Principal of Springwood State High School.

In January 2009 the college created and filled a new position of college chaplain.The school is devoted to the charity World Vision and fundraise for them each year through the 40 hour famine.

To:

Ormiston College opened in 1988 on the original 6.5 hectare site on which the Junior School now stands, with 162 students in six classrooms. Ormiston College Limited, a non-profit, public company, had been formed to develop the school and the Board of Directors was established to assist in the administration of the College.

In 1989 another 11.7 hectares were purchased and by 1990 there were 402 students attending the Junior School. Year 8 students commenced in 1991 and since then, the number of buildings in the Senior School has rapidly increased, with eight classrooms and three Science Laboratories being added in 1992.

The Staff and Administration block, change rooms and four more classrooms were added during 1993, with the building of the Drama and Music, Japanese and Graphics, Art Rooms and Gallery, Computing Laboratories and two classrooms ready for the 1994 school year. The Ormiston College Library was opened by the Governor of Queensland in 1995.

The Marsson Aquatic Centre was officially opened in October, 1997 followed by the Lingo Lin Performing Arts Theatre on 22 October 1998. The Pre-School opened in 2000.

The College purchased 2.8 hectares at the western end of Dundas Street in 2002. This is now the site of the Somerset Sports Centre which opened mid-2004. Additional Science Laboratories and facilities were built during the second half of 2004, opening for the 2005 school year. The Ormiston College Early Learning Centre opened in March 2007 with its official opening ceremony taking place in August 2007.

In 2009 an additional four classrooms were built in the Senior School. In 2010, construction commenced on the Junior Performing Arts Centre and an additional Prep classroom in preparation for occupancy in 2011. The Prep intake will move from two classes to three classes in 2011.

Ormiston College now stands on 22 hectares of land. Enrolment numbers currently stand at approximately 550 Prep to Year 7 students in the Junior School and over 700 students in Years 8 to 12 in the Senior School.

Reason for change: To increase factual correctness & detail while removing marketing hype.

Please change the mission statement from:

Ormiston College aims to nurture and encourage enthusiasm for and commitment to the pursuit of lifelong learning.

The College is committed to providing holistic, integrated educational programmes which develop problem-solving, decision-making, critical and creative thinking skills to enable students to participate as confident and contributing members of society, capable of meeting the demands of a rapidly changing world.

The College affirms individual differences and actively promotes cultural and intellectual understanding and the development of physical skills of each member of the school community.

The provision of challenging opportunities for development of character, responsibility, initiative and integrity, social awareness and good citizenship is a priority in the College.

To:

Our Mission Statement to Our College Community

Ormiston College is an independent, coeducational, non-denominational Christian school seeking to achieve academic excellence.

Ormiston College aims to nurture and encourage enthusiasm for and commitment to the pursuit of lifelong learning. The College is committed to providing holistic, integrated educational programs that develop problem-solving, decision-making, critical and creative thinking skills to enable students to participate as confident and contributing members of society, capable of meeting the demands of a rapidly changing world.

The College affirms individual differences and actively promotes cultural and intellectual understanding and the development of physical skills of each member of the school community. The provision of challenging opportunities for development of character, responsibility, initiative and integrity, social awareness and good citizenship is a priority in the College.

Reason for change: To reflect the actual wording of Ormiston College's Mission statement - see

Please delete the school size section as the information is incorporated into other sections.

Please add the following sections:

Curriculum

Ormiston College offers students subjects from a wide curriculum. Within senior school, core subjects are compulsory in years 8 and 9. At Year 9, as well as studying core subjects, students are able to choose from eight electives.

Year 10 students complete Foundation Studies for Year 11, where they learn introductory Senior Studies subjects in Semester 1. In Semester 2, Year 10 students commence Senior Studies. All students must include a Humanities, Language, Business, or Performing Arts subject in their selection. The Junior School curriculum is designed to ensure strong academic foundations supported by cultural and sporting programs designed to educate the whole person. Co-curricular

Ormiston College provides a broad co-curricular program. Students can choose from music, drama, debating, leadership programs and from an extensive list of individual performance and team sporting activities including:

Music Tuition, Aerobics, Speech, Drama, Dance, the Duke of Edinburgh Award, Debating Club, Fitness Club, Chess, Public Speaking, Environmental Committee, Social Justice Committee, Sailing, Swimming Club, Biennial Musical, Tennis Tuition, Drama Club, Art Club, Robotics Club, Titration, Cultural Committee, the Academic Committee, and a program of cultural exchange, excursions, camps and overseas and national tours.

Music tuition students are offered the opportunity to participate in a number of performance groups which include several school choirs and instrumental ensembles.

Ormiston College is a member of the TAS (The Associated Schools) sporting program, also the Bayside District and Metropolitan East Region sporting associations. Sports including AFL, Rugby, Athletics, Sailing, Basketball, Soccer, Cricket, Softball, Cross Country, Swimming, Tennis,, Hockey, Volleyball and Netball.

Pastoral Care

Ormiston College provides permanent, on-campus pastoral support and guidance for students and their parents. Each teacher is supported in providing pastoral care by a Student Support Services Team comprising two counsellors, Year Level Co-ordinators, the Dean of Students and the College Chaplain.

Early Learning Centre

The Ormiston College Early Learning Centre, also know as Puggles Burrow is located on the Ormiston College campus and operates for children from 15 months to 5 years of age.

Grounds & Facilities

Ormiston College has a range of high quality facilities, including:

The Lingo Lin Performing Arts Theatre, which features a 13 x 9 metre stage, modern staging technology, drama studio, and individual music rooms.

The Somerset Sports Centre with facilities for basketball, netball, badminton and volleyball, fully equipped gymnasium, and multi-purpose rooms for dance, aerobics, and other programs.

The Marsson Aquatic Centre - a 25 metre heated swimming pool and complex.

Science Centre – The centre provides five Biology and Chemistry Science Laboratories and a dry Physics Science Laboratory.

Computer Laboratories – Ormiston College has nine computer laboratories - each containing at least 28 computers, two mini-lab classrooms of 15 computers each, an Electronic Learning Centre containing 30 networked computers and Music Keyboard Laboratory accommodating 30 students. In 2010 Ormiston College commenced with the rollout of a laptop program which will equip each student in the senior school with a personal laptop device by the end of 2012.

Library Resource Centre – comprises of four designated wings: an electronic learning centre housing 30 computers used for class and individual research; the Junior Learning Centre; a comprehensive reference collection and the library administration. The central hub of the Library Resource Centre comprises two class areas and fiction and non-fiction material.

Thanks.

Ingrid

Ingridcliff (talk) 23:44, 17 January 2011 (UTC)

Ingridcliff (talk) 23:44, 17 January 2011 (UTC)


 * Okay, I'm going to start to make some changes to the article, but I don't believe they're going to be exactly what you like. The article is fundamentally in violation of WP:NPOV and WP:V. The first of those requires that all Wikipedia articles be neutral in tone--this article improperly promotes the school with many inappropriate positive claims. Second, all information should be verifiable--that is, we need to have reliable sources that support the statements made.  None of the above information has a source. Note that you cannot, for example, simply assert that they school has "told you" what the correct info is--it needs to be in sources that meet our guidelines.  Finally, much of this article goes into far more detail than is appropriate for an encyclopedia article about a school.  We do not list exact numbers, a year by year history, the exact details of all facilities, etc.  I'm going to start working now, but I'm not going to be able to finish today.  I certainly welcome your continued input, and if you have or can get sources, please provide them.  I hope that you have not promised them anything specific with regards to the way the final article will be written, as that is impossible given the way that Wikipedia is edited collaboratively and following policy.  Qwyrxian (talk) 02:23, 18 January 2011 (UTC)
 * As a followup: for example, the change that you requested in the lead is absolutely the right way that we want to go. Your point about "removing the hype" is exactly what we want.  I'll keep working on this later.   Qwyrxian (talk) 02:27, 18 January 2011 (UTC)

Partly done: I've gone ahead and made the changes that I believe are appropriate. The next thing that this article could really use are some outside sources. That is, has the school ever been mentioned in newspaper articles, educational journals, etc.? I don't mean students at the school (so we don't want local newspaper reports that say "Johnny X at Ormiston College won the 500 meter dash at...", but something that points out major or effects of the school, sporting teams that have had signficant success (preferably national, although regional may be appropriate), students or teachers that have won national/international awards, etc. While high schools are almost always considered to be notable and thus deserving of their own article, it's always good when we can substantiate the schools importance with independent reliable sources.

Edit request from Ingridcliff, 25 January 2011
Thanks for adding in the essence of the previous edits. I have requested additional external references from the College.

One more factual edit

Replace

The school expanded to include a Senior School (starting from year 8) in 1991, and the Early Learning Centre was added in 2000.[1]

With

The school expanded to include a Senior School (starting from year 8) in 1991, Pre-school (Prep) in 2000 and the Early Learning Centre (Childcare Centre) in 2007.[1]

Thanks

Ingrid

Ingridcliff (talk) 02:54, 25 January 2011 (UTC)

Done You're welcome!Qwyrxian (talk) 03:26, 25 January 2011 (UTC)

Thanks again for making the previous edits. Now we need to adjust the information box on the right hand side of the page

Take out Years Offered 	P-12

Replace with Years Offered ELC (15 months – 5 Years), Prep – Year 12

Take out Enrolment 	1256

Replace with Enrolment          1280

Take out Website 	http://www.ormistoncollege.com/

Replace with Website              http://www.ormistoncollege.com.au/

Thank you Ingridcliff (talk) 00:07, 19 February 2011 (UTC)

Done Made some other minor changes to the infobox also. Can I get a reference for the student numbers? - danjel  (talk to me) 01:22, 19 February 2011 (UTC)

Edit request from Ingridcliff, 22 March 2012
Could the student enrolment numbers be updated to reflect the latest reported on the My School site - Enrolment: 1284

Also could the following be amended:

Currently, the school enrolls over 550 Prep through year 7 students and over 700 Senior School students, and has a staff of over 130 teachers and support staff

Change to

Currently, the school enrolls over 600 Prep through year 7 students and over 700 Senior School students, and has a staff of over 150 teachers and support staff

Thanks Ingrid

Ingridcliff (talk) 06:21, 22 March 2012 (UTC)

✅ You know, if you edited wikipedia a bit more, you'd get autoconfirmed and you could make these changes yourself... ;) &tilde;danjel [ talk &#124; contribs ] 07:25, 22 March 2012 (UTC)

Thanks Danjel - just working towards the autoconfirm :)

The college has requested a minor edit to the enrolment numbers in the side box. The figure 1284 is for 2011 and not 2012. These figures are reported to the Australian government in the ACARA census and appear on the My School government website .http://www.myschool.edu.au/ I can't provide a direct link to the relevant page on that site as you have to jump through a page of verifying you accept the terms of service of the site before they take you to the specific page for the school. Could we perhaps just link to the home page of that site as the external referral source for the figures?

Thanks

Ingrid Ingridcliff (talk) 02:16, 29 March 2012 (UTC)
 * I think that if I use the full link, it works. I'll add it; can someone else try clicking on it to make sure that it's not just my computer caching the verification? Qwyrxian (talk) 12:36, 30 March 2012 (UTC)

The link takes you through to the cached log-in unfortunately Qwyrxian. I will discuss the problem with the college to see if we can get a different link.

Ingridcliff (talk) 02:20, 4 April 2012 (UTC)


 * ✅ I don't think this fact would be subject to too much challenge from other people. Therefore, per WP:SELFPUB, we could use the school's annual report or any other documentation that it has on student numbers. Until then, I'll use "enrolment_as_of" and the 2011 numbers (from the myschool website), then you can provide the reference later. &tilde;danjel [ talk &#124; contribs ] 02:41, 4 April 2012 (UTC)