Talk:Oroks

Oroqen
Can they be Oroqen by chance? (I wrote "no", but it is my guess) `'mikka (t) 19:15, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

Total Population: 1300
According to Wikipedia Russki, Total Population is 1,300. Of which, Ukraine: 959, RF: 346 & Japan: 20 elderly individuals near Abasiri. Very strange numbers!! Axxn (talk) 17:59, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Seems to be stem from a Tolkien running gag. Trigaranus (talk) 10:38, 26 July 2011 (UTC)

Translated from Russian Wikipedia
Riverhugger (talk) 04:38, 21 August 2012 (UTC)

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Orok Population in Ukraine
In 1883 the Russian Tsar relocated Ukrainians from the Kiev and Chernihiv Governorates to Vladivostok. Tens of thousands were moved. By 1914 there were more Ukrainians in the region than Russians. During the Communist Revolution period the Ukrainians formed an army and established the Ukrainian Republic of the Far East. They were defeated by the Bolsheviks in 1922 and the Ukrainian government of the Far East was liquidated.

In 1857 the Russian Empire established a penal colony on Sakhalin. Ukraine born ethnographer and activist, Lev Sternberg was exiled to Sakhalin in 1889. Sternberg objected to the harsh treatment of indigenous peoples of Sakhalin. While in exile he began studies of the Orok, Nivkh, and Ainu peoples.

After the collapse of the Soviet Union in 1991 tens of thousands of ethnic Ukrainians living in the Far East returned to their homeland. The 2001 All-Ukrainian Census recorded 959 Orok people, 584 Nivkh people, and 288 Oroch people living in Ukraine. Reasons for such high percentages of indigenous peoples of Sakhalin may be a result of intermarriage and assimilation with the dominate culture of the Far East. Of the Orok people recorded in the 2001 Ukrainian census, only 12 recorded Orok as their native language. 179 recorded Ukrainian as their spoken language. The rest indicated Russian as their language. I believe the census numbers to be accurate and should recorded on the article page. Kepper66 (talk) 06:31, 2 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Please provide references. - üser:Altenmann >t 07:01, 2 April 2016 (UTC)

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Dubious assertions in "Rites of Passage" section ...
I highly doubt that Orok youths proved their manhood by fighting a sturgeon. Or at least, not as it's portrayed here. For one thing, sturgeon don't even have teeth—they are bottom-feeding scavengers, quite nearly blind, and survive by scouring the murky depths for organic matter like crawfish, etc. Having caught a 13-foot specimen myself, I found them to be oddly gentle creatures. If you roll one over on its back it will, like a chicken with its head placed under its wing, simply fall limp.

Perhaps "sturgeon" wasn't properly translated? Though honestly I can't imagine what other fish it could be. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jeffreyphowe (talk • contribs) 01:22, 20 April 2018 (UTC)