Talk:Oryx (website)

Requested move 3 October 2022

 * The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion. 

The result of the move request was: Moved to Oryx (website). Per consensus. (closed by non-admin page mover) – robertsky (talk) 18:07, 10 October 2022 (UTC)

Oryxspioenkop (OSINT) → Oryx – Common name Eurohunter (talk) 17:30, 3 October 2022 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
 * Comment — the pagetitle "Oryx" is already occupied by the animal, the primary topic. The request should be changed to "Oryx (OSINT)" or "Oryx (website)" or something like that. Paintspot Infez (talk) 17:56, 3 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Move to Oryx (website). Agree with the above comment, the animal is the primary topic. 162 etc. (talk) 18:30, 3 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Yup, Oryx (Website) seems good to me too. KMS Eternity (talk) 04:36, 4 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Comment: The animal is the primary topic, I'd be fine with "Oryx (website)" or any other descriptor within the parentheses. -- benlisquare T•C•E 17:32, 10 October 2022 (UTC)

Article reads like a P.R. piece for the web site, not a encyclopedia entry
This is a pretty bad article. It completely fails on multiple Wikipedia requirements. It reads like, and probably is, public relations written by a PR pro of person associated with the firm, not neutral observers.

It is going to be twice as hard to fix as it should, because it's likely there are state actors involved in this.

Oryx is either itself, or a primary source for, a huge amount of pro-Ukraine propaganda. In an ongoing war. Thus, this article itself is a very small corner of the information war that is supporting the kinetic war that is happening in Ukraine, and thus has the attention of government information warfare specialists on both sides of the conflict.

A more skeptical and scholarly tone for this article is, at a minimum, what is needed. 35.146.235.1 (talk) 15:47, 28 September 2023 (UTC)

Sources for criticism
A couple times now a user has added language that synthesizes original research and misattributed language about OSINT in general reworked to be implied to be about the subject. There is nothing wrong with noting legitimate criticism of the subject as covered in reliable sources -- however including misleading, inaccurate or unsourced information in an attempt to provide "balance" is not acceptable. Either way, discussion and consensus are needed before this should be added again. Yaksar (let's chat) 22:18, 10 October 2023 (UTC)

Oryx flawed methodology
It relies on publicly available reports as source, which as a result, can be easily manipulated and often unsourced and also as a result of pro Ukraine bias, Russian losses are often exaggerated. Because both side use the same Soviet era weaponry, Ukrainian losses can be also passed as Russian losses, and some allegations that there are visual evidences being shown in different angle to amplify Russian losses. Dauzlee (talk) 11:22, 9 January 2024 (UTC)