Talk:Otho Holand

There is no contemporary or near-contemporary evidence for the coat of arms in the illustration. Where has it come from?

Contemporary evidence: his seal, 1358, : ″"a lion rampant betw. six fleurs-de-lis″" [comment: this is the same as his father's arms, even though he was a younger son; the six fleurs de lis represent semy de lis (= powdered with fleurs de lis)]

Near-contemporary evidence: roll of arms, ″"Otes de Holand″" with painted shield: azure semy de lis and a lion rampant gardant argent, charged on shoulder with a crescent sable. [comment: his brother Thomas, Earl of Kent, is given same arms but with an annulet sable, WJ 377, and brother Alan the same but with a mullet sable, WJ 375; eldest brother, Robert, 2nd Lord Holand, had same arms without any difference, WJ 373, four other rolls of arms, and seals, 1341, 1354, ]