Talk:Our Lady Peace

Look I doubt anyone will respond but...
How can we add Raine as both producer and lead singer on that little chart at the bottom of the article? I tried and it won't work. Thanks in advance to anyone who's actually still on Wikipedia reading talk pages. 142.176.57.15 (talk) 00:57, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

This article is rife with opinionated statements...
Statements like "many consider" should not really be used to describe the band, especially if there's no source appended. You may think the band has become more "mainstream", but if you can't source an article, its still just your opinion. 69.14.18.172 (talk) 17:32, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

Absolutely. I used to love this band, and I totally agree, but this article reads like it was written by a 15-year old fanboy. And Clumsy was not their best album. Twice in this article that statement is made, referenced to some dude's list of his favorite 100 canadian albums of all time. One person making a list hardly justifies the claim that it was their most "widely recognized" or "best" album. Happiness was their best album. I knew a quite a few diehard fans back in the day, and they would all agree. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.218.239.109 (talk) 02:45, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

Considering the band's radical departure from their early style upon the release of Hapiness... and future albums, most fans would likely agree that Clumsy was their best effort. I have seen many television programs/critical articles by music critics that have stated as such. Perhaps someone can find a mainstream critic's words to this effect, and cite the quote? Mrcooker (talk) 16:26, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

Cover?
A Decade says that "...this will be the last album featuring Saul Fox on the cover" while Spiritual Machines says "The album was also the last Our Lady Peace album produced by Arnold Lanni, whose face appears on the patient being carried on a stretcher on the album's cover art. Lanni produced (and appeared on the cover of) the band's first four albums"

Since most of these covers feature only one person, these can't both be accurate statements. TheHYPO (talk) 20:47, 3 October 2008 (UTC)
 * The Spiritual Machines reference to Arnold Lanni was just added in late September, and is indeed inaccurate. I've removed it. It seems the editor may have been confused. Lanni was never on any OLP cover. &mdash; `C RAZY `( lN )`S ANE ` 23:16, 3 October 2008 (UTC)

Post Grunge
Although Post grunge is abit of a subgenre I think the term is very descriptive of the early tunes of Our Lady Peace. Particuarly tunes like Superman is Dead. They are unmistakedly post-grunge. Then take Naveed which almost sounds like a Pearl Jam tune. No doubt about it in my mind and I think they came into existance and were around at the right time to earn this tag. Supposed (talk) 06:20, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

Canadian grunge, perhaps? (I guess for a genre to exist, multiple bands have to fill it... Good luck with getting Big Wreck or Default to call themselves that.)  Post Grunge seems to be a blanket definition for most bands these days, and once someone is called that it never leaves them. (i.e.: Live, who is lately more "Power-Pop" than anything grunge anymore.) Post Grunge works for OLP for now. 209.180.155.14 (talk) 03:19, 25 March 2009 (UTC)

Art Rock?
I think not. I doubt anyone could argue that Our Lady Peace sounds like Can, the Mars Volta, or Half Japanese. Should be removed. Megadan76 (talk) 14:58, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

Record Company
I read in the paper this week that the 2009 album is their first without the SonyBMG label. Should this be incorporated once a proper reference can be found? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.196.169.146 (talk) 12:43, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
 * They actually are releasing the album through Sony in Canada, and through Warner in the US. But Sony doesn't own any of the material, OLP own that independently. They're also financing their own music videos. &mdash; \`C RAZY `( lN )`S ANE `/ (talk &bull; contribs) 14:57, 15 July 2009 (UTC)

As If
I'm wondering if anyone knows if OLP released any music (other than Out of Here) while under the name As If (if they did then it should be added)

also, I noticed that As If (band) currently doesn't direct to anything, but it should probably direct to OLP's page (i'm not sure how to change it so that As If (band) redirects to OLP's page). Charwinger21 (talk) 15:32, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
 * I've redirected the page. Take a look at the redirect page's source to see how it's done. Mind  matrix  16:36, 15 July 2009 (UTC)

thanks :) Charwinger21 (talk) 19:45, 15 July 2009 (UTC)

Hatnote
I recently edited the hatnote of this article to include a reference to Our Lady of Peace which was then reverted. Is there a precedent here that I am unaware of? Our Lady of Peace references this page, so it is only logical that this page references Our Lady of Peace.

I replaced:

With:

Your input is appreciated. --Bsay @ CSU [ π ] 22:57, 8 August 2009 (UTC)  Resolved --Bsay @ CSU [ π ]  06:07, 9 August 2009 (UTC)

Saul vs Sol
The article identifies the early albums' cover model as "Saul Fox," but I distinctly remember his name being spelled "Sol Fox" during that era. I remember this only because, at the time, I thought it was such an odd spelling of the name (I now realize it's probably short for 'Solomon'). Can anyone say for sure which spelling is correct? I just skimmed the liner notes of a couple of the albums but I didn't see him acknowledged. 24.79.89.131 (talk) 23:19, 12 May 2011 (UTC)

recent edits
The article looks bad and unsourced more like a fan-page than a serious article. I make a serious warning to User:CIS that it is needed thorough revision of what has been accomplished. I ask you humbly... no I beg you to not escalate this matter. The article is bad and what I propose is better. I assure you that I am acting in good faith and I want to explore further possibilities in developing better article. Don't let cloudy judgment guide you. I am working for the best. Now is bad, tomorrow is good.
 * Regards: The Mad Hatter (talk) 01:56, 25 June 2011 (UTC)
 * I see that English is not your native language, and I am having some difficulty understanding what your specific criticisms of the article are. Please explain, in detail, which parts of the existing article you think are biased, unsourced or fancruft. Please also explain how your edits (which interrupt flow and inexplicably remove pictures and sourced material) are an improvement. &mdash; CIS (talk | stalk) 03:20, 25 June 2011 (UTC)

As far as I recall, usage of photos, except on the specific article about the specific person is prohibited by fair use. Also look at it and tell me honestly if you find it good. I have been working my ass for 7 years and this type of articles are just... not good. Also this "style" section is just stupid and useless. Much more established bands doesn't have that kind of section, so what's left for OLP? And what kind of flow, did I interrupt? To put countless subsections and make it difficult to read and understand, make it look more or less like a fan-article? Spare me the lecture, I've seen much and done even more. I don't know, but I back up doing some kind of form of music article. Not this... this is not good. And if you say it is, then well... I don't wanna work on articles, where users are claiming ownership and disrupting progressive edits. That's all.
 * Regards: The Mad Hatter (talk) 19:53, 25 June 2011 (UTC)
 * No, the usage of photos of living persons on articles other than their namesake's are not prohibited by Fair Use. If you think the Style section is "stupid and useless", that's your opinion. Other band articles do have that section, for example, Radiohead's: Radiohead. If you have a problem with the subsections and find them difficult to understand, we can work on that, but I disagree with all of the other edits you've made including removing images and sourced material. I'm not disrupting progressive edits or claiming ownership of anything, you are inexplicably removing sourced information and making poorly formatted cuts and edits where I don't believe they are needed. If you want to pursue this issue further, consider WP:THIRD or WP:RFC. &mdash; CIS (talk | stalk) 22:37, 25 June 2011 (UTC)

See? It's not that difficult ;).
 * Regards: The Mad Hatter (talk) 22:13, 26 June 2011 (UTC)

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