Talk:Outline of poetry

Additions
I have added Rumi and Ferdowsi's Shahnameh to the list.

Rumi's work and persona are at heights which few poets have reached.

Ferdowsi's Shahnameh is regarded as the greatest epic of all times (by sheer size and quality)

The disclusion of Persian Poets, warrants me to add these. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.149.192.106 (talk) 02:36, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
 * That is factually wrong. It is not rated as greatest by any standard, and it is surpassed in size by many others, including the Hindu epics (Mahab and others). The size of the html (found here) places it at the equivalent size of Homer's Iliad if not quite a bit smaller. Ottava Rima (talk) 18:56, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

Rename proposal for this page and all the pages of the set this page belongs to
See the proposal at the Village pump

The Transhumanist 09:23, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

Famous poets
I was rather shocked at the list of famous poets. Oscar Wilde? Emily Bronte? and some others are not famous -poets-. They might have written -some- poetry, but there are many actual famous poets that are missing - John Milton, Alexander Pope, William Wordsworth, Samuel Coleridge, John Keats, Tennyson, Walt Whitman, T. S. Eliot, etc. Where is Virgil? Homer? Horace? Sigh. Ottava Rima (talk) 03:13, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

Guidelines for outlines
Guidelines for the development of outlines are being drafted at Outlines.

Your input and feedback is welcomed and encouraged.

The Transhumanist 00:31, 24 May 2009 (UTC)

The "History of" section needs links!
Please add some relevant links to the history section.

Links can be found in the "History of" article for this subject, in the "History of" category for this subject, or in the corresponding navigation templates. Or you could search for topics on Google - most topics turn blue when added to Wikipedia as internal links.

The Transhumanist 00:31, 24 May 2009 (UTC)

Rename of "Outline of poetry" to "List of poetry topics"
This article was recently renamed to "List of poetry topics", without discussion and without consensus. It has been named Outline of poetry since March 2009, and before that it was Topic outline of robotics from October 2008. It has been referred to as an outline for over a year, as part of Wikipedia's Outline of Knowledge. The article shares the outline formatting of the articles in that set, and it is highly disruptive and confusing to change the name to something else without reaching consensus first.


 * Oppose rename, and keep "Outline of poetry" as its name - for the reasons stated above. The Transhumanist 00:15, 19 October 2009 (UTC)


 * oppose the rename - "List of poetry topics" do not fit this article. Iambic pentameter is hardly a "poetry topic" but more of a grammar topic (not really even there). The appropriate title is "Outline of poetry". This removes the oddity stated above and more importantly, this article is an WP:OUTLINE. -- penubag  (talk) 05:13, 19 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Keep current name. BTW, Iambic pentameter is a very related topic. This may be in outline format, but the title need not use the word "outline". The current title is unambiguous and describes the content much better. -- Brangifer (talk) 05:46, 19 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Strong oppose renmae : keep current name - The OOK is little more than a personal project of The Transhumanist, who had agreed to not rename anymore articles until his project had established consensus globally for outlines. WP:OUTLINE has never had any consensus, and has recently been tagged as a failed/disputed policy. This article was originally a list, and lists are supported by policy and guidelines, and community consensus. In this case it is also a better name which describes the topic and allows more flexible organisation, not tied down to the WP:OUTINES style guide (which contradicts WP:MOS in several paces and encourages GFDL violations). The "staus quo" until the outline problem is solved is "list of". Also, Iambic pentameter is clearly a poetry topic - and I don't see how a rename would fix this even if it was the case. Verbal chat  07:07, 19 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Voting - evil No reason has been presented. As such, this is just a vote to win, as opposed to a discussion about moving. Thus, I oppose any move. Hipocrite (talk) 11:00, 19 October 2009 (UTC)

Straw poll and discussion concerning what outlines should be called
See: Wikipedia talk:Outlines

The Transhumanist 04:30, 20 October 2009 (UTC)

Proposal: rename to "Outline of poetry"
This article is an outline and is a member of Wikipedia's set of outlines. It has the same format as the outline set, and matches the set in every way except for its title.

To look at its placement within the set of outlines, see Portal:Contents/Outlines.


 * Support - as proposer. The Transhumanist 19:43, 5 October 2010 (UTC)


 * It's been over a week with no objections. I'm making the rename.  The Transhumanist 18:10, 12 October 2010 (UTC)


 * The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section. 

The result of the move request was: page moved per request. - GTBacchus(talk) 00:09, 23 July 2011 (UTC)

Outline of poetry topics → Outline of poetry – To be inline with other Category:WikiProject_Outlines_articles articles. — HELL KNOWZ  ▎TALK 18:29, 15 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Support for consistency and conciseness. –CWenger ( ^ •  @ ) 20:00, 17 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Support Tarheel95 (talk) 02:50, 20 July 2011 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

Famous poets and their poems
What are the objective criteria used for selection of poets in the "Famous poets and their poems" section of this article? Is it simply down to the whim of the editor? --gråb whåt you cån (talk) 23:06, 8 January 2012 (UTC)
 * All poets on Wikipedia must be famous (i.e., "notable"). WP already has exhaustive lists. This section present a few examples, in WP's Summary style.  I've adjusted the heading to reflect this. The Transhumanist 01:45, 9 February 2013 (UTC)

Quick explanation of Wikipedia outlines
"Outline" is short for "hierarchical outline". There are two types of outlines: sentence outlines (like those you made in school to plan a paper), and topic outlines (like the topical synopses that professors hand out at the beginning of a college course). Outlines on Wikipedia are primarily topic outlines that serve 2 main purposes: they provide taxonomical classification of subjects showing what topics belong to a subject and how they are related to each other (via their placement in the tree structure), and as subject-based tables of contents linked to topics in the encyclopedia. The hierarchy is maintained through the use of heading levels and indented bullets. See Outlines for a more in-depth explanation. The Transhumanist 00:08, 9 August 2015 (UTC)