Talk:Outline of the history of the United States

Merge
I'd suggest merging this page into the various subpages of Timeline of United States history. -- Quiddity (talk) 19:26, 21 July 2010 (UTC)


 * I agree that the timeline presented here should be merged. The rest should stay and be expanded: history of individual states and territories, named eras, etc.
 * Any objections to this? —Mrwojo (talk) 06:32, 26 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Good plan. I've been expanding the By subject section. The Transhumanist 12:25, 31 January 2014 (UTC)

Enquiry?
Pmurnion (talk)

The wikipedia History main page states that the term history comes from the Greek historia (ἱστορία), "an account of one's inquiries,". This article doses not reflect that (Wikipedia) definition. There is not much enquiry going on here, more of a eulogy. For instance, one of the main threads in (early) US history was the mass ethnic cleansing, displacement, and acts of genocide against the native americans. There can be disagreement about the morality of these events, but there can be no disagreement about their _importance_ in US history. Yet there is zero mention of this episode: this is a major flaw in this article. Surely there are a few scholars in US history (I am not such an expert) that could fill this important gap in the article? Hopefully they can do so without fear? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pmurnion (talk • contribs) 20:40, 6 December 2011 (UTC)

The following links need to be placed
These are the remaining links from the latest link harvest, that have not yet been placed in the hierarchy in the "By subject" section.

Pending

Completed
 * History of fountains in the United States
 * History of hotel fires in the United States
 * History of United States prison systems
 * History of cooperatives in the United States
 * History of the flags of the United States
 * History of the hamburger in the United States
 * List of United States military history events
 * Postage stamps and postal history of the United States
 * History of United States postage rates
 * Taxation history of the United States
 * Technological and industrial history of the United States
 * Territorial evolution of the United States
 * Territorial acquisitions of the United States
 * Numismatic history of the United States
 * Oxford History of the United States
 * History of LGBT People in the United States
 * History of violence against LGBT people in the United States
 * History of transgenderism in the United States
 * History of union busting in the United States
 * History of United States diplomatic relations by country
 * Demographic history of the United States
 * Geologic history of the United States
 * * History of youth rights in the United States

Any help would of course be appreciated. The Transhumanist 12:33, 31 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Placed some, and sorted the list. The Transhumanist 12:49, 31 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Placed 4 more. Only a dozen left. The Transhumanist 13:37, 31 January 2014 (UTC)


 * Placed 6 more. Amethyst1234 (talk) 20:22, 22 May 2014 (UTC)


 * Took care of remaining items, redlinked an item that ought to exist, and added a few more unlisted items I discovered in the process. Zell Faze (talk) 00:29, 2 September 2014 (UTC)

Quick explanation of Wikipedia outlines
"Outline" is short for "hierarchical outline". There are two types of outlines: sentence outlines (like those you made in school to plan a paper), and topic outlines (like the topical synopses that professors hand out at the beginning of a college course). Outlines on Wikipedia are primarily topic outlines that serve 2 main purposes: they provide taxonomical classification of subjects showing what topics belong to a subject and how they are related to each other (via their placement in the tree structure), and as subject-based tables of contents linked to topics in the encyclopedia. The hierarchy is maintained through the use of heading levels and indented bullets. See Outlines for a more in-depth explanation. The Transhumanist 00:01, 9 August 2015 (UTC)

Move
@Michael7604, while I appreciate consistency, I'm not sure it + avoiding what is the least obtrusive form of demonym (i.e. one with identical spelling) is worth the extra clunkiness of the new title? Remsense 诉  04:47, 20 April 2024 (UTC)


 * I thought it would set a precedent for creating historical outlines of other countries (at the moment United States is the only country with a historical outline article). Consider this: the demonym for both Democratic Republic of the Congo and Republic of the Congo is "Congolese". The article title Outline of Congolese history is ambiguous; it would be better to use Outline of the history of the Democratic Republic of the Congo and Outline of the history of the Republic of the Congo. The clunkiness kinda irks me, but still this is the standard formatting of article titles, e.g. it's List of presidents of the United States, not List of United States presidents. Michael7604 (talk) 04:59, 20 April 2024 (UTC)
 * There's also the articles Outline of the history of the British Isles and Outline of the history of Los Angeles. Michael7604 (talk) 05:01, 20 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Sure, and I think each of those examples are fine the way they are; however, it's worth mentioning that, save the LA example, they each have ambiguities that I don't think are present in simply "United States history". Remsense  诉  05:48, 20 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Good discussion. As far as naming conventions go, the standard is to use the most common name for the subject. So, let's check... Googling the subject names in the competing titles, "United States history" got 7,120,000 results, while "History of the United States" clocked in at 856,000,000 results. "History of the United States" appears to be the more common name for the subject, by far.  It is also the name of the corresponding article: "History of the United States". They're a matching set!  I hope these observations help.  Sincerely,   &mdash; The Transhumanist   12:24, 24 April 2024 (UTC)