Talk:Overtoun House

Urban legend?
Why is this article in that category? --Laur2ro 20:02, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

Sorry, but if you read the article then it would answer that question. Fraslet 20:11, 7 September 2006 (UTC)


 * The article didn't address the question, even before I edited out an obscure reference to urban legends. Lauro2ro was right to question this categorization and I have corrected it.--Shantavira 17:41, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

pics or video
are there any pics of it? or maybe a video of a dog jumping over the side. Someone should put a camera on it 24/7 like that guy did on the Golden Gate Bridge76.105.211.236 (talk) 04:12, 24 March 2009 (UTC)

Dog suicides unsourced
Here are some starters: Supposedly there was a BBC doc on this phenom, but searches on "Overtoun Bridge dog" are coming up blank for me @ bbc.co.uk. / edg ☺ ☭ 17:26, 24 March 2009 (UTC)
 * – caution: self-published, unvetted source
 * – caution: self-published, unvetted source

Not a BBC doc, but rather a Channel 5 doc. "Stranger Than Fiction: Dog Suicide Bridge" was screened on Wednesday, October 18, 2006 at 8pm on Five. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 158.169.131.14 (talk) 13:38, 27 October 2009 (UTC)

When was bridge built?
And is it just an approach to the house, or is it a public road? Basic questions.... A2Kafir (and...?) 01:59, 24 November 2009 (UTC)
 * 1895. It's an approach to the house, which I've mentioned in the lede. Think it's a private access uphill from the main road, but it's open to the public. The track continues east to join a track up from Milton. . dave souza, talk 11:22, 29 March 2019 (UTC)

local hunter
That local hunter information is not really noteworthy is it? ''"However, local hunter, John Joyce, 50 years resident of the area says that "there is no mink around here. I can tell you that with absolute certainty."[8]".'' who cares what some local thinks? it shouldn't make it into the wiki article. the dailymail isn't particularly trustworthy, but apparently the animal researcher "Sexton, on the other hand, who laid bait in the undergrowth beneath the bridge, soon discovered that mice and mink resided there, while evidence of squirrel nests was also found in cannons embedded in the bridge's structure." http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-411038/Why-dogs-leapt-deaths-Overtoun-Bridge.html

Also the "animal habitat expert" referred to in the daily mail was David Sexton not David Sands... "To establish if either sound or smell was the culprit, specialists from a Glasgow acoustics company and the RSPB's David Sexton, an animal habitat expert, visited the spot." Bouncingmolar (talk) 18:34, 30 November 2014 (UTC)

why "reportedly"?
"the unusually large number of dogs that have reportedly leaped to their deaths there." Later the text says "Studies have shown that since the 1950s or 1960s numerous dogs have leapt from the bridge at the rate of about one dog per year." I thought "reportedly" was used when we wanted to distance ourselves from stating something as an established fact, but don't those sourced studies establish it as a fact? I also wonder why it says "unusually large number of dogs". What would be a usual number of dogs who leap to their deaths on a bridge? The reference says "a number". --Richardson mcphillips (talk) 02:35, 15 May 2015 (UTC)

Cut dog suicides from this page. Definitely from the lede
There is another page on the bridge. It seems odd to me to put the dog suicides in the lede, and maybe not mention the bridge at all. What does this have to do with the house? Is this promotion for tourism? DolyaIskrina (talk) 23:40, 28 March 2019 (UTC)
 * The bridge has landscape significance as part of the grounds, and that merits a brief mention and link in the lede. The dogs don't need a separate section, I've tightened the baby death mention and added a brief note about the dog deaths, with a link for anyone looking for more detail. Think that's a sensible amount of coverage here. `Maybe best thought of as a warning to keep your dog on a lead, and avoid reading the Daily Mail! . . dave souza, talk 11:05, 29 March 2019 (UTC)