Talk:P.S. I Love You (Beatles song)

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White/Starr cause
Session drummer Andy White (brought in by producer George Martin as he wasn't happy with Pete Best, and hadn't yet heard Ringo Starr) gave the recording a lightweight cha cha treatment, and consequently it misses the distinctive heavy drum beat that characterised most of their early music.

The explanation of why White was used is at variant with the more extensive Love Me Do session information but agrees with Martin's Summer of Love. Martin has it that White performed on the earlier session and Starr on the latter, which is born out here. The Love Me Do entry has it that Starr performed on September 4 and Martin replaced him with White for September 11. While Martin has been quite firm that he hadn't heard Starr until after he booked the White session, the sessionography suggests otherwise, so attributing cause should follow this. MartinSFSA (talk) 07:30, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks - will look into.--Patthedog (talk) 07:41, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

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Percussion
It is often erroneously reported that Andy White played drums on the track, but in reality, it was bongos that he played on the final master, since they were more appropriate for the Latin feel. If somebody can add a reliable source to verify this anecdote, please do so.

Percussion on "PS I Love You"

Ian MacDonald and Mark Lewisohn are wrong - Andy White was, in fact, contributing bongos to "PS I Love You", according to Guesdon and Margotin's book. 1.

60.240.8.249 (talk) 11:43, 16 February 2018 (UTC)43.184.228 (talk) 03:05, 19 February 2018 (UTC)


 * I have copied the comment that you left on my talk page to here (above). I would like to gently remind you that you must not arrogantly assume that you are right, as you have done here. If you have potentially contentious information that contradicts something that already exists in the article you don’t simply inset it and delete the accepted content, instead you should discuss it here first. So please feel free to do that. In the meantime I have reverted you for a second time. Patthedog (talk) 13:20, 19 February 2018 (UTC)

I am not being arrogant - I am just stating that Ian MacDonald didn't always get line-ups right - and as I said, if there is a reliable source to verify it, I would much appreciate it for it to be added and the edit reverted back. Thank you for your help. 60.240.8.249 (talk) 11:49, 20 February 2018 (UTC)
 * After listening to the track and reading about it, it seems that it wasn't drums nor bongos on the track but just Wood block percussion. The maracas are clearly heard (Ringo's contribution) but nary a trace of tom, snare, hi-hat or cymbal to be heard !! JeanPaulGRingault (talk) 20:51, 23 December 2018 (UTC)


 * Andy White employs a technique called "cross stick" where you lay the drumstick across the snare and tap the metal rim. It is similar to a rimshot and used to attain a Latin feel. Hope this helps. Patthedog (talk) 09:37, 24 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Mystery solved...thanks..JeanPaulGRingault (talk) 13:12, 24 December 2018 (UTC)

Peggy Sue
Jonathan Cott may have written for Rolling Stone, and the Beatles surely admired Buddy Holly; but the idea that the "PS" in "P.S. I Love You" is in any way a homage to "Peggy Sue" is ridiculous. The song is conceived of as a letter, composed as a letter, "PS" is often part of a letter -- so it's meant to recall "Peggy Sue"??? Come on. Makes as much sense as saying the "time" in "Any Time At All" is a tribute to the early rockers of the mid-Fifties, which was, after all, a "time". Hmmm?

That statement should be removed. --Daveler16 (talk) 05:04, 7 January 2019 (UTC)
 * I agree Patthedog (talk) 09:09, 7 January 2019 (UTC)

Okay, took it out. It's entirely possible Jonathan Cott was kidding - Rolling Stone used to do that a LOT. --Daveler16 (talk) 23:25, 12 January 2019 (UTC)