Talk:P. L. Travers

Picture
The picture depicts travers acting in A Midsummer Night's Dream. I wonder if the link to the Shakespeare article is the right one. Shouldn't it be one of the movies at: A Midsummer Night's Dream (disambiguation)?--Narayan (talk) 15:29, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

explanation needed
"in March 1936, with the help of Jessie Orage, she met the mystic George Gurdjieff, who would have a great effect on her, as well as on several other literary figures.[4]"

Jessie Orage died in 1934... how could he have helped her find George Gurdjieff? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 131.95.1.134 (talk) 19:22, 18 June 2013 (UTC)

It was A.R. Orage who died in 1934. Jessie died in 1985. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.254.14.236 (talk) 14:36, 20 October 2013 (UTC)

Sources?
Am I the only one who can't find sources for most of this? 98.198.83.12 (talk) 15:33, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

You're not the only one. The article says that at the movie premier, Travers told Disney the animated sequence had to go. But the reference just links to another website called Vulture.com. Vulture.com says it came from the New Yorker, but doesn't give a citation. And it's not in Valerie Lawson's biography of Travers. 209.137.134.50 (talk) 14:39, 12 March 2014 (UTC) [13 Feb 2014: 9:35 CST]

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Death
"probably" of natural causes? what was the controversy? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.46.171.97 (talk) 08:02, 1 September 2012 (UTC)

Disney Version
This section does not mention the existence of the 2004 short The Cat That Looked at a King and seems to say that this short could not have been made due to specific requests in P.L. Travers last will and testament. This is missing information that needs to be included here if anyone can find the details. Ffejmopp (talk) 14:41, 29 June 2013 (UTC)

The article states that Travers hated the Disney film. She clarified her feelings toward the film more specifically in a 1977 interview: "I've seen it once or twice, and I've learned to live with it. It's glamorous and it's a good film on its own level, but I don't think it is very like my books." So, she appreciated the film, but was bothered the film adaption differed from her books. (http://www.historyvshollywood.com/reelfaces/saving-mr-banks.php) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.224.121.143 (talk) 06:38, 26 February 2014 (UTC)

Mary Poppins sequel and more abut Travers
Useful source: BBC - Mary Poppins: Brian Sibley's sequel that never was. Onanoff (talk) 04:21, 20 October 2013 (UTC)

Parents
The BBC tell us that her father's early death, in his early 40s was almost certainly the result of alcoholism. After her father's death, her mother attempted suicide. ("The Culture Show: The origins of Mary Poppins broadcast 30 November 2013.) 31.48.68.90 (talk) 20:45, 30 November 2013 (UTC) When her son Camillus discovered he was an adoptee he went off the rails and spent his 21st birthday in Stafford Prison serving a six-month sentence for drink-driving. She earned a commission of 5% on the $100 million that Disney made from the Mary Poppins film made. Her ashes were scattered at the church in Twickkenham, but there is no memorial to Travers there. The new film "Saving Mr Banks" is the new Disney about the making for Mary Poppins.

Father's Death
Travers Goff's exact cause of death was not influenze (perhaps that was a factor), but actually “epileptic seizure delirium”  (http://www.obitoftheday.com/post/48708563364/pltravers). This may be caused by alcohol withdrawal syndrome (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcohol_withdrawal_syndrome). The central irony here is that an abrupt end of drinking, perhaps for the sake of his family, may have inadvertently contributed to his death. This may be suggested by the circumstances in his death, as portrayed in "Saving Mr. Banks." — Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.224.121.143 (talk) 06:26, 26 February 2014 (UTC)

Why is there no mention of her fairly open Bisexuality?
She is listed in a Wikipedia List of Bisexual people with top sourcing, including the one extensive Biography of her. See for yourself in the list of the sources at List of bisexual people (T–Z). I've read the book by Valerie Lawson, considered the best resource, and it's not as if Travers attewmpted to hide her affairs with either men or women. Of course, this article is a bit of a mess in terms of sources and maybe it would be better to sort that out too. Even so, since Travers didn't hide her sexuality in life, as editors, we have no obligation to hide it for her in death. In fact, we have even less of an obligation to dead people than we do to the living per Wikipedia's own policies. At the very least, there should be a Category listing of Bisexual Authors and you can use the cites the List uses.LiPollis (talk) 15:25, 30 November 2014 (UTC)

Problem with lede
The lede states:
 * Her popular books have been adapted many times...

That same sentence then mentions the only two adaptations that exist (both of the same book), and the rest of the article offers no additional adaptations. The fact is that Travers was averse (as described in the article already) to having the books adapted. So why does this unsupported bit of hyperbole exist in the article? 12.233.147.42 (talk) 20:05, 26 January 2015 (UTC)


 * You're welcome to reword it. -- WV ● ✉ ✓ 20:25, 26 January 2015 (UTC)

Obituary.
This obituary from The New York Times provides some good quotes from Travers and some who knew her: http://www.nytimes.com/1996/04/25/arts/p-l-travers-creator-of-the-magical-and-beloved-nanny-mary-poppins-is-dead-at-96.html Thank you, Wordreader (talk) 05:31, 13 May 2015 (UTC)

ref name=nance
Fixing references today, I changed the title of [ref name=nance] from "&thinsp;'Mary Poppins, She Wrote' author discusses P.L Travers, 'Saving Mr. Banks'&thinsp;" to "Valerie Lawson talks 'Mary Poppins, She Wrote' and P.L Travers". That fits the previously/currently linked page, which carries Chicago Tribune date-and-by-line "December 20, 2013 | By Kevin Nance". Then I noticed the other title listed as a related article and found it displayed at another eddress above date-and-by-line "December 19, 2013 | By Kevin Nance". Scrolling through all three pages I find that the two articles are identical, including layout of the interview itself; they differ only in the advertisements that are inserted in paragraph breaks, and in the location of page breaks. --P64 (talk) 19:13, 14 July 2015 (UTC)

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Name change info corrected
According to the New York Times, Travers's name change was in order to work on the stage, rather than as a pen name. The original source than described it as pen name seemed less reliable than this source. The change is the first of the three edits I made, and I accidentally tagged the second edit with that change, rather than the first. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aatist (talk • contribs) 01:41, 18 March 2018 (UTC)

Is 2 Million pounds "rich"?
The article uses the poorly phrased sentence "it made her rich", stating that 2 Million pounds for a London inhabitant in 1996 would classify them as being rich.

I'd say that makes you wealthy, but certainly not rich. The sentence in general is written like a poor person from the streets seeing somebody with a job and calling them rich.

Rich is, if you really don't know anymore what your bank balance is, because you honestly don't care and you just spend spend spend. An eastate of only 2 mil GBP, when living in London, most certainly does not do that.

Can we change it to "made her wealthy" or "provided her with financial resources"? 2A02:3038:14:3B91:1:1:340F:E47B (talk) 07:31, 20 August 2022 (UTC)