Talk:PFC Levski Sofia

Untitled
I've done some more cleaning up, but it still needs further work. Particularly,


 * Until 1921 no football championship was carried on.
 * Levski is on 69th place in "Top100" - rankings of the clubs participated in the European Club Tournaments since their establishing in 1955.

Could someone reword/expand on these bits if you can? -N (talk) 21:22, 5 November 2005 (UTC)

I changed the formatting of the nicknames in Famous Players as per River Plate. - N 22:36, 23 October 2005

eeh, i reorganized it a bit in the hope that now it will meet the "quality standards" :0 got logged off - Trunchanin

Badge
There seems to be some dispute on which is the "real badge" of the club. The official website uses only the new one, but I seem to recall there was some not-so-recent controversy or reintroduction of the old badge for some reason. Can anyone explain the matter, so we could be sure which one to use? → Тодор Божинов / Todor Bozhinov → 17:40, 25 March 2006 (UTC)


 * The new badge
 * The old badge
 * I saw the issue was discussed in Bulgarian on this talk page: User talk:Trunchanin. According to the user, the new page had been introduced for legal reasons that shortly after that had been resolved. It has, however, remained in use to some extent (together with the old one that the fans favour) because it is one-colour and thus cheaper to print. Still, it seems the old badge is the official one after all. [[Image:Flag of Bulgaria.svg|20px]] → Тодор Божинов / Todor Bozhinov → 17:44, 25 March 2006 (UTC)


 * Plamenj 15:34, 11 April 2006 (UTC) It is the new badge (blue-white) that is the club official regardless of what fans fovour. It is shown both on team kits and official documentation.
 * Your uninformed opinion is not welcomed. Please come back when you study the facts.---Trunchanin 13:46, 12 April 2006 (UTC)


 * Please, note that the shield-shovel-looking-thing IS NOT Levski Sofia's true and real logo. For 10 years we, Levski supporters, were fighting to gain back our true logo and last year we finally won. So we find it pretty abusing users putting the fiction, which is no longer current. I personally prefer to see "blank" logo in this topic, rather than the FAKE one. And I'm sure that I'm not the only one.

Levski Sofia has one and only logo - ---RebornToConquer 07:09, 31 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Not to sound offensive, but your personal preferences are absolutely irrelevant here, if you can provide a source - go ahead, if not, just leave it at that, since they still use the blue badge on their website. Ban  Ray  16:47, 2 November 2008 (UTC)
 * I've just checked the website (again) and found out that they in fact use both in the intro. So since both logos are equally used, an alternative solution I would suggest is using both logos in the infobox. Ban  Ray  17:00, 2 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Next time make a REAL CHECK and don't judge only by yourself - . It is not my "personal preference" and what did you not understand in "we finally won"? Officially Levski Sofia's logo is the one I have shown above (look sources), it doesn't matter that the stupid admin of the official website uses both. Feel free to question every other thing concerning Levski without knowing anything... ---RebornToConquer 19:35, 6 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Again - short summary of the court decision - . If I'm not mistaken, in the end of October 2006 one of the newspapers published this article - . It says that the "thing", introduced in 1998 is no longer an actual logo of the club and gradually it would stop appearing as official. The returned logo is the one without year. ---RebornToConquer 09:24, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
 * The links you mention are over two years old, if the club had real intention of getting rid of the logo, they sure would've done it by now. But instead, the logo is used on the official website and on official merchandise. The problem is that you appear to have a strong personal opinion regarding the issue, but here we tend to present facts and the fact is that both logos are used by the club. Ban  Ray  11:45, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
 * The site is not updated and the admin is dumb. Official season tickets - . ---RebornToConquer 20:43, 9 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Please, stop doing nonsense and looking for attention, Levski's logo is even ON THE STADIUM:
 * [[Image:Levski Sofia-scoreboard.JPG]]

International success
Should we go ahead and scrap the listing of teams knocked-out in order to reach the QF? It just takes too much space and I'm not really sure if it has any relevance. Instead just stating Levski has reached the QF in this and that year, in what tournament, and close w/ listing what records the team holds. 14 games and 7 wins this season for example are new all-Bulgarian records. Trunchanin 09:38, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Well, I don't think we should actually remove content, but rather add more - the history section is still incomplete, we could probably integrate those scores there. The article needs a copyedit and some reorganization, I believe. [[Image:Flag of Bulgaria.svg|20px]] → Тодор Божинов / Todor Bozhinov → 13:50, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

Away colors
They are all yellow not yellow and black.Change them!

Club name
I, as a Levski fan, take this "PFC Levski Sofia" heading as highly insulting. The name of our beloved club has always been simply LEVSKI, not even Levski Sofia, because this is the true people's club and as such it belongs to all Bulgarians, not only the ones in Sofia. I do not know if there is any way the name of the article can be changed, because as I already mentioned the real name must be simply Levski, or Levski Sofia the most. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Mgyozov (talk • contribs) 22:58, 21 December 2006 (UTC).

NOT the best in Bulgaria
Levski is the most widely supported Bulgarian football club. Who said this silly thing? The club is equally supported along with CSKA Sofia so no one can say whether levski or cska is the most supported club. Johny1407 20:43, 29 June 2007 (UTC)


 * Look at the attendance since there is attendance statistics. Levski IS the most widely supported Bulgarian football club, like it or not. --- RebornToConquer, 20:28, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

Is there a poll regarding the supporters of the Bulgarian football teams which hasn't been won by Levski? The answer is no! CSKA plays in the center of Sofia and there supporters has access to the whole city transport network whilst Levski's stadium is in a quarter which is far from being called easily accessible. Nevertheless, Levski has always had higher average attendance than CSKA. It's the same in all spheres of life. It's a historical fact that in more than 100 matches between the two teams CSKA's fans were always outnumbered by the fans of Levski. The first time CSKA to have more fans of Levski was when quotas for the spectators were introduced and the matches moved to the club stadiums. Just watch the biggest wins of CSKA against Levski and you will see that even when CSKA was on the top and Levski at the bottom, most of the spectators were fans of Levski. On the other hand when when Levski was in form and achieved its biggest wins against CSKA, almost the whole stadium was in blue. Just watch videos from 2:7, 7:1 and 5:0(1998). And yes, you are right that both clubs were equally supported. One by the people and one by the communist authorities. Is it enough to remind the famous communist Milko Balsev- "Not all fascists are fans of Levski but all fans of Levski are fascists." Is it enough or do I have to continue with BBC's report about 2:7(1968) explaining how the team of the communist authority was smashed by the team of the people as BBC called Levski?!? Enough is enough.Ivo (talk) 06:44, 14 October 2009 (UTC)

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POV
This article is littered with POV language: "...artificially imposed and hated title...", "...turned into true holidays for supporters...", "The club once again became a force to be reckoned with in Europe...", etc. Not good enough. Dancarney (talk) 12:07, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

Could anyone please mention that Levski Sofia fans frequently ridicule the national football team of Bulgaria, as many of them are of Turkish or Roma ethnicity?

Cucumber (talk) 12:07, 23 May 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.117.141.166 (talk)


 * It's nonsense invented by part of cska Sofia supporters. They have a huge inferiority complex from Levski. Seems like it won't end soon. --RebornToConquer 09:41, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

Player Matches
Only official matches from "A Grupa" should be added in the player career stats. Friendlies and/or Cup matches shouldn't be counted and added. That's how the stats are for all the players in Wikipedia, but for some reason only the Levski players get unofficial stats added. Is there someone that has the right statistics and can edit the profiles ?

Само официалните мачове от "А Група", в които са взели участие играчите трябва да се добавят в тяхната страница. Приятелските срещи или тези за купата не се броят и не трябва да се добавят. Така е с всички играчи в Уикипедиа, но по някаква причина само с тези от Левски е различно. Някой има ли правилните статистики за да оправим профилите на играчите ? 2:20, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

owner
Did I miss something? A user with the IP address 78.90.45.96 reverted the following addition even though it is well-sourced: It is allegedly owned by the infamous Russian-Israeli business man Michael Cherney. If there are no objections I will put it back into the article. Either way, we should clarify this. --spitzl (talk) 16:10, 11 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Cherney seems to have sold his 20% share of PFC Levski Sofia in June 2009. It is not clear whether he is still honorary president. --spitzl (talk) 07:36, 28 June 2011 (UTC)

Notable players
Manuel Mendoza redirects to the wrong person (a goalkeeper from Ecuador). If I remember correctly, the Manuel Mendoza who played for Levski in the early 2000s was a midfielder and even scored a goal in a match against CSKA Sofia. If someone could please look into this. (talk) 12:45 pm, 5 August 2011 (UTC)

Todor Batkov
Is he also the owner of Levski or only the chairman? (talk) 12:45 pm, 5 August 2011 (UTC)

Rename
Can we rename the article form "PFC Levski Sofia" to "Levski Sofia"? (Aspirina) 11:34 pm, 23 October 2011 (EET)

Kit
Hello! I added the 1940s/60s Levski kit with the white sleeves as extra info in the history section, but it was removed without explanation. Should I return it, as I think it's important to show the contrast - a bit like when Arsenal changed their kit in the 1930s to play in white sleeves. Levski played with white sleeves and white collars for quite a few seasons. Thanks! BigSteve (talk) 10:16, 8 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Looks fine to me. Go ahead and add it back. -- L a v e o l  T 10:44, 8 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Will do. I wanted to make sure there was no specific agreement for not adding xtra kits. BigSteve (talk) 10:25, 12 March 2012 (UTC)

Interesting things about Levski and its history
I think that different interesting fact about the history of the team can be added to the article. For example, the fact that Levski is the only team to score 5 goals in a single match against Barcelona in the European tournaments. Levski defeated Barcelona with 5:4 in Sofia in the 1976. Or perhaps that the most visited game of Levski was the one against Real Madrid in Madrid -> 100 000. Stuff like this is interesting for me. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.70.66.233 (talk) 17:14, 19 March 2012 (UTC)

Fabrication of honours
Davefelmer (talk) 17:03, 19 September 2015 (UTC)somebody has clearly bloated the club's trophy count by adding unofficial tournaments and friendlies to the haul in the intro. this isnt corroborated by the club itself on its official website or the media. If nobody can justify the bloated count's existence, it will be changed to reflect the club's honours as per the official website.