Talk:PNC Financial Services/Archives/2013

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PNC Logo
Hey, it's been about four years since PNC updated their logo by changing the color of "PNC" to blue and the color of the triangular/circle logo to orange, and there's no update on this? Anyone have a fair-use image of their current logo we could use? Thanks! Jgera5 (talk) 06:44, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

PNC's market ranking
Hey guys, the source that is up that has PNC as the sixth-largest bank in the United States is accurate and the most recent. Although it is within a few million of U.S. Bancorp, "coming close" only counts in horseshoe's and grenades. Unless something changes, PNC is the SIXTH largest bank, and sources are there to prove it. Thanks! Jgera5 (talk) 20:36, 15 June 2010 (UTC)
 * I actually haven't been able to get that search form to work. Regardless of computer it says I need cookies enabled. I definately have them enabled. Strange. Either way the question, if I remember right, is how do you define largest bank. Is it by assets or deposits. Because by assets yes US bank has a few million more. But by deposits (which is what I thought most used in this ranking, and the article has...PNC has more). By assets US Bank is 11th largest in the US and PNC 12th last I checked.
 * I found some links. http://www.ibanknet.com/scripts/callreports/getbank.aspx?ibnid=usa_817824 according to this as of 5/10 has $186B, US Bank as of 6/10 $183B http://phx.corporate-ir.net/phoenix.zhtml?c=117565&p=irol-fundbankinghighlightsq Strunke (talk) 00:35, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
 * The FDIC site is just ridiculously picky about cookies and making sure you click through their site in the proper order... I'm going to fix up the instructions on the main page and you should be able to access Strunke. But I'm going to wait until tomorrow because the data is coming back oddly right now (late night system updates or stale cookie issues? someone please go WP:TROUT on the programmers there). Magog the Ogre (talk) 08:08, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Updated. Magog the Ogre (talk) 01:39, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Great thanks for clearing that up, the instructions look good. That is definately finicky... It's amazing how often those numbers change. Thanks Magog the Ogre! Strunke (talk) 19:44, 5 August 2010 (UTC)

lacking NEUTRALITY... reads like an advertisement
Hi, I'm not sure how to annotate this correctly, but this article reads like a commercial for this bank. It should be more Neutral Point Of View, eh? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.114.161.155 (talk) 15:03, 11 April 2011 (UTC)
 * How so exactly? You are going to need to provide some examples and alternatives. I see quite a bit of good and bad notes about it and do not believe it is written like an advertisement. Strunke (talk) 18:58, 22 June 2011 (UTC)

PNC footprint map
We should add the former BankAtlantic branches already integrated into the map as well as (in a different color, such as orange like we did with National City Corp.) the RBC branches soon to be added to PNC's footprint. Any thoughts? Jgera5 (talk) 00:52, 24 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Well I'm getting there, but I'm having the dual problem of a) not having a computer to compile with, and b) the FDIC website isn't updated yet (is the merger not official yet? because the news sure mare it sound that way), so I have to transfer the branches manually. Magog the Ogre (talk) 05:54, 24 June 2011 (UTC)


 * ✅ I've done the BankAtlantic, but I don't want to do the RBC until it's approved by the FDIC and the shareholders of both banks (which it almost certainly will be). Please let me know when that happens, and I'll create yet another PNC map. Magog the Ogre (talk) 03:52, 26 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Approval was given by both banks' shareholders. Waiting on FDIC approval, trying to see when their next meeting is Imaslee  pviking  ( talk ) 18:45, 2 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Merger is finalized, as is the Flagstar branches. Jgera5 (talk) 05:23, 5 March 2012 (UTC)
 * I see that the southern RBC Banks are now all replaced with "PNC" signs, so yes the map needs updating! Thanks.  MarketDiamond 19:57, 17 March 2012 (UTC)

The Acronym
I think a lot of people would be curious to know where the acronym PNC originated from. I suspect they'll come to wikipedia first, and it seems like the appropriate place for that. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Phydroxide (talk • contribs) 15:45, 5 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Good suggestion I just added it in. Strunke (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 09:00, 2 February 2013 (UTC)

Controversy section
That a bank founded in 1852 had to close two branches for a couple of days due to some civil disobedience in 2011 seems incredibly obscure and smacks of recentism and is hardly controversial. I believe that should be removed in accordance with WP:TRIVIA, WP:UNDUE, WP:COATRACK, etc. Toddst1 (talk) 22:38, 19 February 2013 (UTC)
 * I agree I don't see how it's controversial or relevant. Should be removed. Strunke (talk) 22:33, 29 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Done. Toddst1 (talk) 22:35, 29 March 2013 (UTC)

Original President, Early History
I've found evidence (here and here for example) that the original bank, Pittsburgh Trust and Savings, was organized by James H. Laughlin (who also held the first presidency.) This information seems important, especially considering it would open links to and from Jones and Laughlin Steel Company and other pages of Pittsburgh providence. Before I added much, I wanted to make sure there wasn't some reason it isn't there already. It wouldn't be more than a couple sentences, and there seems to be the evidence to back it up. MidwestCuttlefish (talk) 19:36, 30 October 2013 (UTC)

The plot thickens! PNC attributes their beginnings to the same Laughlin of J&L Steel, but with "E" as the middle initial. My only reservation about declaring them one and the same on a major page is the omission of the "H" in reference to James Laughlin in some texts. In case anyone else is following this middle-initial madness. MidwestCuttlefish (talk) 20:51, 30 October 2013 (UTC)