Talk:PPAP (Pen-Pineapple-Apple-Pen)

Phonology
Mention the phonological aspects of the song. E.g., non-aspirated consonants vs. those of standard English. Jidanni (talk) 00:54, 3 October 2016 (UTC)
 * I don't think it is necessary to point out how someone pronounces English words; and I doubt that there would be any significant coverage on this apart from the IPA saying "Pen-Pineappo-Appo-Pen". Lordtobi  ( &#9993; ) 22:59, 14 October 2016 (UTC)

Dispute over name of external link
What should the name of the external link at the bottom for the music video be?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0E00Zuayv9Q


 * 1) Official music video
 * 2) No external link, retain in infobox.
 * 1) Official music video
 * 2) No external link, retain in infobox.
 * 1) No external link, retain in infobox.
 * 1) No external link, retain in infobox.
 * 1) No external link, retain in infobox.

The reason I went against option 6 is that the video is not labeled as such on the YouTube itself. It does not say PPAP (Pen-Pineapple-Apple-Pen Official) and it does not spell out "PIKOTARO(ピコ太郎)". Note that the in-video name is just "ペンパイナッポーアッポーペン" with subtitle "Pen-Pineapple-Apple-Pen"

Thoughts? AngusWOOF ( bark  •  sniff ) 00:02, 24 October 2016 (UTC)


 * I'm not quite sure which video you were viewing, but the title on the one linked above (which correctly is the original) specifically says "PPAP（Pen-Pineapple-Apple-Pen Official）ペンパイナッポーアッポーペン／PIKOTARO(ピコ太郎)", copied 1:1. This usually how you handle external links (other than the official website which simply says "Official website"), and therefore should also apply here. Hence, option 6 is the most valid, if we were to chose from the other, cross out the first two: On the first, "Video" is not a qualifier and does no good to a reader; on the second, Simply appending "/[artist]" is not the way music video titles are handeled, especially not on Wikipedia. The fourth does not apply as it lacks the "on YouTube", which is appended automaticly through the YouTube template. Other than that I would agree on option 3 or 5 as well, but still consider 6 to be the most accurate. (P.S.: I refined a few options for a better view.) Lordtobi  ( &#9993; ) 08:03, 24 October 2016 (UTC)


 * Do not strike out the options. They are still valid options. Your YouTube setup must be different from mine, perhaps it is your browser or computer that shows links differently? I've checked two browsers on mine and they both show option 2. I would agree on option 3 and 5, and am adding option 7 (no external link as it's in infobox). Option 8 is just the song title and the "on YouTube"; that would work as well. As you can tell, there is no standard on any of the titles. AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 12:36, 24 October 2016 (UTC)


 * Looking at List of most viewed YouTube videos for some of the top music videos:
 * Gangnam Style – has multiple external links
 * Then on the article Gangnam Style (music video) – *
 * See You Again (Wiz Khalifa song) – *
 * Sorry (Justin Bieber song) – no external link, only in infobox
 * Uptown Funk – *
 * Blank Space – no external link, only in infobox
 * Hello (Adele song) – no external link, only in infobox
 * Shake It Off – no external link, only in infobox
 * Lean On – *
 * Bailando (Enrique Iglesias song) – no external link, only in infobox but lots of versions
 * Shake It Off – no external link, only in infobox
 * Lean On – *
 * Bailando (Enrique Iglesias song) – no external link, only in infobox but lots of versions


 * I'll note that most of those started as songs and not music videos so the music video link isn't particularly useful. AngusWOOF ( bark  •  sniff ) 13:16, 24 October 2016 (UTC)


 * Truly, it is quite confusing, as there is no strict guideline on this. Also, should we consider WP:YOUTUBE? Other than that, the examples above underline what I said: Either the video title or the song title + "music video", using the YouTube template. Lordtobi  ( &#9993; ) 15:47, 24 October 2016 (UTC)

PPAP copied videos and view counts
It looks like a copied version of the video is grabbing more views than the official one and has over 150 million views. Justin Bieber's tweet also points to a copied version. Per WP:YT, links to copyright violations are not allowed. AngusWOOF ( bark  •  sniff ) 19:16, 7 November 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 8 February 2017
, the official video has been viewed over 45 million times JoshuaXiong (talk) 17:48, 8 February 2017 (UTC)
 * X mark.svg Not done: You are wrong, it's over 113 million times. Lordtobi  ( &#9993; ) 18:09, 8 February 2017 (UTC)