Talk:País LLïonés

Merge with "Comunidad Autónoma de León"
- I don't think the two articles should be merged. País LLïonés or Leonese Country is a different concept as it would be an altogether independent state, and territorial claims would encompass areas belonging to other Autonomous Communities and Portugal, whereas a Comunidad Autónoma de León or Leonese Autonomous Community would simply consist of the segregation of three of the provinces now in the Comunidad Autónoma de Castilla y León to form an Also, the idea of an independent Leonese state is not only much less popular than that of an independent Leonese Autonomous Community, but also much less feasible (if not unrealistic). MarkamBey 02:53, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

LL
- Does the Leonese spelling have uppercase LL? RAE Spanish would have Ll as in Mario Vargas Llosa. --Error 15:11, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

- It is usually seen spelled with an uppercase "LL", not sure about whether this actually correct according to the Astur-Leonese language rules. MarkamBey 02:53, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

Map
- Is there any map that exists for this proposed state? It would be useful because right now I don't understand very well what regions are being talked about. If there is no map, could someone create one? --Hibernian 03:00, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

- You can see the map in: http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imagen:Paislliones.png I'm from this "proposed state", but I think that nobody here want a state but a Autonomous Community due to the rivalry Valladolid vs.Leon, and there are only a few that really want it.

- You are right, according to the description the map for the "proposed state" would have to include bits of Portugal and other Spanish surrounding regions. About the Autonomous Community, this is different as it would be an altogether independent state, and again, territorial claims would encompass areas belonging to other Autonomous Communities and Portugal. Also, the idea of an independent Leonese state is not only much less popular than that of an independent Leonese Autonomous Community, but also much less feasible (if not unrealistic). MarkamBey 02:53, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

Article deletion?
- This is the kind of article that boosts doubts on prestige of Wikipedia and makes us question its very principles. Just because two guys that nobody knows in León itself want to spread some of their mental diarrhoea, the rest of the world has to stand it! How can it be put in parallel with cases such as Kosovo? Why not create a category "Improbable imaginary toy countries"?

- This article shouldn't be deleted, the above is just your personal opinion, there are many degrees of not fully sovereign nations, and many discrepancies as to which groups are nations, and it is withing the context of Wikipedia's mission to acknowledge them all as long as they are substantiated. This article, albeit a stub, is rigorous and proper as the concept of an independent Leonese country exists, is supported by a very small but sizeable sector of the Leonese people, and has historical roots. Please try to keep the discussion civilized, and restrain from using derogatory expressions. MarkamBey 02:53, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

Deletion of the link The Quest for Independence
- It adds nothing at all. I just checked it and there's no additional information. It may be there for advertising purposes only. --HeffeQue (talk) 12:56, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

LL? > Ll
In Spanish Ll must have the first L in capital and the other not. --Jeneme (talk) 08:36, 25 January 2010 (UTC)