Talk:Pac's Life

Vandalisim
Why the need to vandalize what is otherwise a very well put together article? Do we need to mark it as protected and remove the option of editing from anonymous users? It's simple folks, no personal opinions, no rumors, and no weasel comments. CITE your sources! If the fans are upset about the track listing, cite a news article from a verifiable source that talks about it, that's the only way it will stay on here. --Philmatic 18:30, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

Unencyclopedic
I think this article is written in a VERY unformal tone, especially for a non-stub. Its grammar is very poor, and its sentences don't flow well. Most of it also seems to be based on rumors, and it's hard to believe that the album will be coming out next month while so little is known about it right now. Just some thoughts. 2Pac 13:03, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

well theres new news on this album EVERY SINGLE day so constantly different ppl are editing it

once it comes out im sure tha article will be a lot better my nigga with chicken on top

Most pages on future articles are based on rumors. License2Kill 05:25, 8 October 2006 (UTC) '''

the tracklist has been proven to be fake. some people are just dumb enough to believe anything and wiki will let those idiots post whatever they want. would anyone like to explain who jossy is? whuh? you cant? exactly my point

Someone reverted this artice. According to the Wikipedia dispute console @ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Resolving_disputes one should improve not revert. This means primarily: Do not simply revert changes in a dispute. When someone makes an edit you consider biased or inaccurate, improve the edit, rather than reverting it. Please, do not delete other's people hard work.

Someone deleted the apperance section saying it was bullshit. It wasn't. The info came from XXL Magazine Oct. 06 edition.

WOW! The picture looks better. Kudos to whoever did it. :)

This article plagerizes some of the info on the don site, needs to be revised.

What "Don" site? License2Kill 18:54, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

A little from donkiliumati.com, but not anymore picture that wasn't giving any credit to site was removed.

The donkilluminati.com site info seems to be wrong. Johnny "J", Papoose, Chamillionaire, and Zola are not mentioned at all. Zola might not have been mentioned because he's relatively unknown, but the rest?

See the following promotional flyers:
 * 1) 1 http://www.oneoone.org/Unknown_Pac's_Lif_72RGB.gif
 * 2) 2 http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k24/MakaveliSite/pacslifeadqo4.jpg

Don't revert only to get it your way, any and all information needs to be CITED accordingly. The CD cover needs to be put back since it now cites donkilluminati.com as the source and has been confirmed by numerous sources.

Philmatic 13:32, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

I know Papoose is on it, that has been confirmed by Papoose. Chamillionaire already confirmed his involvement. Zola is a South African artist that will be on it. They just mentioned the big names on the poster License2Kill 18:58, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

Added track list. Hysteria2424 22:47 17 October 2006. (UTC)

The confirmed people as of now are as follows - notice there is no mention of Johnny "J" so maybe that mention on the page should be watched.

Confirmed as contributing to the upcoming album from hip hop icon Tupac (2Pac) Shakur’s ‘Pac's Life’ are hip hop and rap heavy weights Ludacris, Snoop Dogg, Keyshia Cole, T.I., Ashanti, Young Buck, Lil Scrappy, Carl Thomas, Outlawz, Bone Thugs-N-Harmony, Big Syke, Papoose, with productions from hip hop producers LT Hutton, Sha Money XL, Swizz Beatz and more. User Robert2TLA.

Plus fan site links are not allowed. Reference articles should have an article number not just a link to a fan site.

Street Life IS NOT on this albulm. That song is old and already has been released. That would be like adding I Get Around on the list. It may be best to just delete the track list. :|

The official track list was posted a few minutes ago at http://www.thuglifearmy.com/news/?id=3086, I'm updating the article as we speak. Please do not remove, this is as official as it get since ThugLifeArmy.com is linked directly to 2PacLegacy.com 129.198.241.67 18:56, 24 October 2006 (UTC)Phil (October 24, 2006)

Robert2TLA
It should be noted that User:Robert2TLA is obviously a user coming back with a second username trying to use Wikipedia to add links to his site License2Kill 04:24, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

He is at it again License2Kill 04:20, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

Not really at it again, it should be noted that real info should be listed. Where can anyone find that it is confirmed that Johnny "J" in on this album? Ya can believe me. He is a friend of mine and he don't even know yet so that is garbage news. We get all our info from the Amaru camp. Not second or third hand. Next years projects will put the 'last album' fake news to rest. It is just funny to watch all the rumors and everyone running around like they really know something that is not really official yet. Robert2TLA 22:57, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

One other thing that YOU should know is I had to change my sign in name due to log in issues with the last name I had - if you would have checked that out you would know what is going on there to instead of just guessing. The key to good solid information is checking it out FIRST before you post or run your mouth. That is what gives you credablity. Like the Johnny "J" thing, just because a track he helped compose may be on the album does not mean they are using his beat - so he would not be a 'producer'. No where is it confirmed that he is on this album as a producer - you can check with Amaru on that. Plus reference links to articles are suppose to be acceptable - look at the Tupac Page. It is no big thing to me as, like I said we have a link on 2PacLegacy and are kool there so it is what it is.Robert2TLA 23:15, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

Yes, original research is not valid on Wikipedia. License2Kill 23:57, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

Tracklisting
The tracklisting for Pac's Life that keeps being posted is fake - and that was confirmed by Amaru Lawyers. The Official tracklist has not been released yet and this fake one has been circulating the net for awhile. Please delete if ya see it. The tip off is there are to many tracks - the fake list is 16 tracks.Robert2TLA 14:05, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

The official track list was posted a few minutes ago at http://www.thuglifearmy.com/news/?id=3086. I've updated the article to reflect the new track list. The artists need to have links back to their respective pages though. Philmatic 19:32, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

The tracklist that is up with 13 tracks is the official list from Amaru. I have sent Richard Symonds the original email from Amaru lawyers to prove that - so do not delete it. I said all the time there was a one cd project and that it had 14 tracks - the track that is missing is the Snoop track that he was going to do in Africa but that did not happen so there is 13 tracks. If you have doubts contact hawkertyphoon, like I said I sent him the original email from Amaru. Thanks for posting this. Robert2TLA 22:37, 24 October 2006 (UTC)


 * For the attention of all editors: I can confirm as an independent editor that I have been in contact with the law firm in question, and any further grievances regarding the reliability of TLA as a source should be addressed to my talk page or email address, where I will deal with them. Be assured that TLA is, according to WP:RS, a reliable news source backed up by offical sites and legal firms. Do not confuse its 'street' attitude for a lack of authenticity. HawkerTyphoon 00:02, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

It has nothing to do with that, he still removes links from other sites and puts his links in their place. He uses Wikipedia as a place to post his links License2Kill 20:47, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

I would have to disagree with you. Point out where that is. I edited fan sites where the site is a freewebs site and there is no page or article numbers and the link was to the main fan site, not an article. I have very few links in here. You appear to be a hater and thats kool but get a grip and stop whinning, ya look foolish cause you can not back up what you are saying. Content in here is look upon as truthful and if you are going to back up something with an article people shoould be able to find it, not just click and go to a fan site. Direct links to fan sites that are not official are not allowed. I see no links to my site that are not relevant to the topic, nor are there any direct links to my home page. So I have no clue what you are whinning about. Move on, plus this is not the place for this discussion. It has been stated "any further grievances regarding the reliability of TLA as a source should be addressed to my talk page' or email address, where I will deal with them." so follow instructions and get at him if you still have a problem Robert2TLA 00:48, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

The article happened to be on the homepage, yet you continued to remove it and replace it with yours. Anyway let's just put all of this behind us License2Kill 01:24, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

It was on the home page cause you can not set free web sites up for reference sites, buy a site if that is what you want. The only sections I have contributed to are those I am personally involved with and I can back up with references. I am reconized with a few different people in the Shakur camp. I have links on Assata Shakur, Mutulu Shakur and Tupac Shakur sites and I am also a friend of Johnny "J" and I can get references when needed to back up what I post. Do not worry I will not add anything that I can not have proven by another source. Anyway direct links to fan sites are not allowed periiod, so yes put it behind YOU...Jeez adam Robert2TLA 10:54, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

This is not the first time you have done this. My name is not Adam. License2Kill 22:01, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

Who ever posted track 14 on the tracklist - that is for international versions only and will not be on the US version = info provided by Amaru ref. http://www.thuglifearmy.com/news/?id=308672.49.195.222 22:05, 26 October 2006 (UTC)Robert2TLA 22:15, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

http://play.com/Music/CD/4-/3250142/Pac_Life/Product.html link was deleted because there is no tracklist there - just pre order sales (ie. a commercial site just trying to make a buck)Robert2TLA 19:38, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

Robert, the article was reverted because a) Someone deleted the track list (AGAIN), and B, you have no right to remove the initial link and replace it with a link to your page. The reference clearly stated that the the play.com reference was the 1st mention of Pac's life by a retail company. That makes it the reference point for that entire first paragraph. Don't replace it with a link to TLA for no reason. Your site was referenced for the track listing because it was, in fact the first site to have a correct track list. Philmatic 22:10, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

I deleted it because there is no tracklist or any info there and when I came back my link was gone (AGAIN) and when I seen there was no track list or info on that site - just a sales pitch I did not understand why a link to a commercial site with no info. No harm ment Robert2TLA 01:55, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

"We ride" Tupac Feat Rihanna is confirmed to be on Pac's Life. http://xxlmag.com/online/?p=5510 Needs to be added to tracklist. Hysteria2424 12:00, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

"We Ride (Remix)" Tupac (feat. Rihanna) is *not* confirmed to be on Pac's Life. The album has already been leaked and supports the tracklisting that is on this page. Sorry but XXL is wrong. Supafly 2000 18:42, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

The We Ride (Remix) track was supposed to be on Pac's Life, but was cut at the last minute, I don't think we will see it in a retail form. Philmatic 19:52, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

The track list that is up is from Amaru - xxl is wack. Read the liner notes and thank yous in this cd when you get it. Thats for all the haters...1Robert2TLA 14:28, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

As read in Pac's Life CD booklet, "Special thanks to Robert..."Hysteria2424 15:22, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

Bootleg version
While waiting for the album to drop I found a pre-release bootleg version, or whatever you call it. I think a lot of other people found the same one. It featured some of the real tracks, like Pac's Life with Ashanti and T.I., and also track one. But all the other songs have the right name, but are all old vocals (like Hit Em Up, So many tears, Ghost and more) over some really cool instrumentals. I'm interested in who created this bootleg album and also, it could be interesting to people to know who, why and how long it took to create this album, just to claim you where the first one to release it.

This is not a forum License2Kill 20:16, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

That was just wrong
I just finished editing some of the info witin this article, and I have to say that the original writer of this is an absolute discrace to the whole Tupac fan nation and should be rejected of his privledges to write anything about Tupac(R.I.P.)

Wow, don't thank us for contributing the entire article from scratch, you come in and change 3 tiny things (2 of which were just wrong) and you are Pac's Savior? Your track lengths were just plain wrong, even if they were right, was it absolutely necessary to change them one second up or down, did that make the article accurate enough for you? This IS Pac's sixth STUDIO album, look at the footer of the article for more clarification. You don't count albums like Greatest Hits, Nu-Mixx, and the Rose poetry albums as STUDIO albums. Finally, even though Krazie Bone is the only Bone Thug to be featured on Untouchable, the CD credits "Bone Thugs-N-Harmony", NOT Krayzie bone. Krayzie does this to show his loyalty to the group. Article has been reverted to show ACCURATE information. Philmatic 17:44, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

2Pac Recording Information is invalid
Where is the proof/references that these tracks were recorded during the Makaveli years? I've heard that Soon As I Get Home was recorded during the Makaveli sessions and I have a QDIII (the producer) interview that proves that.

I deleted the section. It claimed that Tupac is still alive. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.175.55.145 (talk) 04:38, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

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