Talk:Pacific Air Lines Flight 773

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Maybe this article's title should be spelled out as Pacific Air Lines Flight 773. Philippine Airlines is also appreviated "PAL", and at one point or another there probably was a Flight 773. :p Coffee 04:06, 20 August 2005 (UTC)


 * That's probably a good idea. I hope to get to it soon, or you can tackle it if you wish. And congratulations on your recent adminship. I'm also from the RFA class of August '05. FeloniousMonk 22:26, 25 August 2005 (UTC)

Number of bullets/shots fired
The article reads: “''With Flight 773 minutes from landing, Gonzales, seated directly behind the cockpit, burst into the cockpit and shot both pilots twice. [...] before shooting himself [...]“ and further “Investigators from the Civil Aeronautics Board (CAB) found in the mangled wreckage a damaged Smith & Wesson Model 27 .357 Magnum revolver, holding six spent cartridges.''“ (bold text by me).

So, what's with the sixth shot obviously fired? Puzzled, --Gott (talk) 20:51, 21 January 2018 (UTC)

Considered a mass shooting?
Good morning, Can you please explain how this falls under Mass shootings in the United States? It states "a gunman kills at least four victims" and "A broader definition, as used by the Gun Violence Archive, is that of "4 or more shot or killed, not including the shooter" This definition, of four people shot regardless of whether or not that results in injury or death, is often used by the press and non-profit organization". Thanks for your time. - Samf4u (talk) 16:47, 13 January 2019 (UTC)

It was already listed in the List of mass shootings in the United States. The article itself identifies the shooting victims as Captain Ernest Clark, First Officer Ray Andress, the shooter himself Francisco Paula Gonzales. Dimadick (talk) 16:55, 13 January 2019 (UTC)


 * Maybe we should remove it as any definition of mass shooting I can find states four or more shot. What do you think? - Samf4u (talk) 17:10, 13 January 2019 (UTC)
 * No problem personally, but it is contradicted by the definitions it the list: "Mother Jones: 3+ shot and killed in one incident, excluding the perpetrator(s), at a public place, excluding gang-related killings." Dimadick (talk) 17:16, 13 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Pacific Air Lines Flight 773 would be 2 shot and killed excluding the perpetrator I believe. - Samf4u (talk) 17:25, 13 January 2019 (UTC)

Proposed merge of Francisco Gonzales into Pacific Air Lines Flight 773
Short text. Whiteguru (talk) 07:24, 9 September 2020 (UTC)


 * Don't merge Francisco Gonzales is also known as being an Olympian sailor. Now it's a stub, but the article can be expanded with his sailing career. Pacific Air Lines Flight 773 is not the place to write about his sailing career. SportsOlympic (talk) 10:13, 9 September 2020 (UTC)


 * Don't merge per SportsOlympic. His Olympic career came first, despite being linked to the plane crash afterwards.  Lugnuts  Fire Walk with Me 13:52, 10 September 2020 (UTC)


 * Don't merge per above.--Darwinek (talk) 23:32, 14 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Don't merge Short text is not a reason for a merge. Games of the world (talk) 20:25, 28 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Don't merge Late on parade but clearly seperately notable as an Olympian per WP:NOLYMPICS - Ba se me nt 12  (T.C) 00:49, 20 October 2020 (UTC)