Talk:Pacific University/Archive 1

Wikification
This article could use greater Wikification, especially in places like Current Programs, which could use sub-categories. Removing the one subcategory already there seems like a step in the wrong direction. -Cyberscribe 03:51, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

Cleanup
I think the notable alumni section needs pruning--if these people are notable, they need their own articles. What's left needs to be copyedited. The article reads somewhat like an ad, and I suspect some copy-and-paste from the school's website. For guidelines to help cleanup, take a look at WikiProject Universities. Katr67 13:30, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

Ideas for improvement/expansion
If you look at some of the other college articles on wikipedia you will see PU does not have very much coverage. First, how to improve existing article:
 * 1) The alumni list should be pared down to those with existing articles, and then just a brief mention of what makes them important
 * 2) Cite some sources and make it more encylopedic (see WP:MOS)
 * 3) expand academic coverage
 * 4) start a athletics section
 * 5) start a campus section

Expansion: New articles to start and then link between.
 * Pacific University Health Professions Campus, Pacific Univesity College of Health Professions, Sidney Marsh, Marsh Hall, Pacific University College of Optometry, Alvin T. Smith House, Alvin T. Smith, Tualatin Academy, and the other schools and any other notable buildings.

Good luck, and stop by Wikiproject Oregon if you have any questions or need some assitance. Aboutmovies 16:22, 22 March 2007 (UTC)


 * The lead needs to be expanded, plus much of those things mentioned above. The "facts" section could be dispersed into other sections, such as the newspaper and yearbook items moved to "History" and the boxer mascot and wrestling item to a section on sports. Aboutmovies 06:57, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

Student Newspaper
Is there a student newspaper? If so, it could go here: .--DerRichter (talk) 23:15, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

Comment on ImperfectlyInformed's page
Um, please read the article before you revert. Almost all the info was simply moved, out of the "trivia" type section that has been tagged as such. Or do you think trivia sections should be encouraged? And with the Greek info, part was removed as it didn't match the rest of the "greek" info there, and none of it was cited as required per policy. Aboutmovies (talk) 23:47, 11 October 2008 (UTC)


 * You're right about the mascot; I missed your move. The Greek stuff is not hard to cite. It's not terribly important, but I don't see why it should be taken out. I'm also concerned over how much you cut from this page, including a lot of the alumni. Just because people, especially old dead people, aren't well-represented on the internet doesn't mean they aren't notable. II  | (t - c) 00:05, 12 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Not sound redundant, but did you read the article? The only things removed were the alumni info and the Greek info, of which this is the entire Greek info removed: "There are four fraternities and four sororities on campus. Each group is local, founded at Pacific." Like I said, it was unsourced (and per WP:V can be removed by anyone) but the actual reason (as I said above) is that it didn't match the rest of the Greek info. To spell it out, the part removed says four frats, the list has three, thus there is an issue. Anyway, you may want to take a look at say Cornell University, an FA class article, that is the best Wikipedia has to offer for this type of article (or any college FA article). Notice that the Greeks don't have their own section and the alumni section looks nothing like what this did. The version that passed FA appears to have had zero alumni mentioned that did not have articles. This is standard practice to require alumni listed in the "Notable alumni" list to be actually notable and have an existing article. Otherwise anyone (and they do try) can add themselves even if they just graduated and are working at the local Burger King. Oh, and I would have replied here, but there was no message here from you to reply to. Aboutmovies (talk) 06:45, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

New 2008 edits
I made several updates to reflect changes in 2008, including enrollment numbers, programs offered, LEED-certified buildings and the new university logo.--Lkissler (talk) 19:49, 4 November 2008 (UTC)
 * You might want to wikify LEED and explain what it means, because as of right now, I think it is confusing for someone who doesn't know what it really means. Thanks. --DerRichter (talk) 21:34, 4 November 2008 (UTC)