Talk:Pahlevani and zoorkhaneh rituals

Kyrgyzstan
I removed Kyrgyzstan part, since this kind of wrestling is unknown in Kyrgyz Republic and not popular as stated, I myself Kyrgyz and know this and the source presented is in farsi so i cannot check this statement. The only popular kind of wrestling among Kyrgyz people, besides mainstream styles, is traditional Kuresh. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Torebay (talk • contribs) 19:13, 25 July 2009 (UTC)

removed some unsourced hype from intro
4,000 years, eh? Funny, the first mention of the earliest Iranian tribes dates to some 2,800 years ago. dab (𒁳) 10:52, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

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Image wars
Two public domain photos relating to this wrestling style have been removed without proper rationale: File:Razaz01.jpg and File:Antoin Sevruguin zoorkhaneh.jpg. In their place we keep getting this added File:International Zurkhaneh Sports Federation.JPG which is about a gym - a distinct topic from the sport of Varzesh-e Pahlavani. It really shouldn't be the primary image for the article. Can we stop removing valid images from this sport please? Hutcher (talk) 17:30, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
 * I have already explained the rational on your talk page, whether you like it or not. Now, we can find some modern images of this art, or we can keep including images from the 19th century that have little connection to how this art is currently practiced in the modern world. The Scythian 20:19, 13 March 2010 (UTC)

Source

 * The Ancient Roots of Iran's Wrestling and Weightlifting Olympic Dominance theatlantic.com. Nemissimo (talk) 23:09, 13 August 2012 (UTC)

Caption text below the picture.
This is the picture of Pahlevan Haj Mostapha Tousi (Iranian) and not some Indian pehlvan holding Indian Clubs!!! I edited/corrected it.

everybody who has practiced Varzesh Pahlevani recognizes this picture of Haj Mostapha Tousi! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 116.48.159.99 (talk) 08:49, 16 October 2013 (UTC)


 * My mistake, I forgot to correct the caption after I copied the template from the pehlwani article. Morinae (talk) 09:30, 22 October 2013 (UTC)

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Submissions?
I keep seeing the claim that koshti pahlevani is a submission wrestling style, but haven't found a single reliable source. And it keeps getting repeated without credible explanation. The IZSF rules don't use submission as a winning condition and actually forbid "pulling fingers or twisting joints, in the opposite direction", and "seizing, pressing or hitting the sensitive limbs of the opponent body which will be led to the opponents heavy injury that stop him of continuing the competition." So that effectively disqualifies every submission hold. The footage I've seen of matches also don't have any submission attempts. Spagooder (talk) 22:39, 3 April 2023 (UTC)