Talk:Pakistan International Airlines Flight 8303

Aviation safety YouTuber Blancolirio has done an extensive video on this incident
Aviation safety expert and YouTuber Blancorilio (himself a Boeing 777 captain) has done a video analyzing the final report on this incident. There were many problems with crew resource management, distractions (crew are not supposed to discuss anything non-essential to the operation of the aircraft when below 10,000 feet) and other issues. Anyone who is interested in this incident should watch this video Pakistan International Airlines 8303 Shocking Final Report. rogerd (talk) 23:13, 29 February 2024 (UTC)

Insanity in the Air: The crash of Pakistan International Airlines flight 8303
Admiral Cloudberg's admirable writeup sheds light on many factors currently not mentioned by the article, including the captain's psychological profile, his history of violations standard of protocol, the Ramadan fast, PIA's systematic negligence in reviewing flight records, etc etc. Unfortunately we would need to find non-blog sources for there. Jpatokal (talk) 03:25, 18 March 2024 (UTC)

Landing gear retracted
quote: "the landing gear (...) was inexplicably retracted".

I don't see any explanation for this. --Io Herodotus (talk) 18:46, 9 May 2024 (UTC)


 * The full passage is:
 * "The landing gear was extended at a height of 7,200 feet (2,200 m) when the aircraft was 10 nautical miles (12 mi; 19 km) from the runway but was inexplicably retracted by the time it came to 5 nautical miles (5.8 mi; 9.3 km). Landing was attempted without the landing gear extended."
 * What sort of explanation were you expecting? Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 19:14, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
 * The pilots retracted the landing gear voluntarily and forgot to put it back out again. Is this what we have to understand ? Io Herodotus (talk) 08:46, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
 * That seems to be the most likely interpretation. It seems unlikely the gear would have retracted without pilot input. There seems to be no evidence that the pilot later tried to re-deploy it and some technical failure prevented this? Martinevans123 (talk) 08:54, 10 May 2024 (UTC)