Talk:Pakuranga

Merge of Golflands
I propose to merge Golflands into this article as it fails WP:NPLACE by not being an official suburb (it's a housing subdivision of Pakuranga) and fails GNG based on a search of Google News, Google Books, and Google Scholar, with only trivial passing mentions that just establish it is an area. Of the sources in the article very few even mention Golflands and those that do call it a subdivision and not a suburb.

@Gadfium @Prosperosity given you two both contributed the most to the article. Traumnovelle (talk) 19:26, 19 May 2024 (UTC)


 * I believe there is enough coverage to pass GNG, and if it were to be merged, Pakuranga would be a poor article for it to be merged into (it's quite a distance away from Pakuranga - two suburbs in between Golflands and Pakuranga). I don't know if there is a logical article for Golflands to be merged into either. Prosperosity (talk) 21:33, 19 May 2024 (UTC)
 * What sources do you think establish GNG? I tried searching for it and I get results for a Golflands in Australia before anything in New Zealand. I didn't find a single source that was more than a trivial mention of it. Traumnovelle (talk) 05:13, 20 May 2024 (UTC)
 * There's extensive sources in the Eastern Courier and the East and Bays Courier (not available in an easily searchable form online), The Times (e.g. ) and council documents (e.g. ), LINZ suburb locality data, it's also discussed in Auckland's Remarkable Urban Forest (2012). --Prosperosity (talk) 00:44, 30 May 2024 (UTC)
 * The news reports are trivial routine coverage. The first Council document just states 'Golflands/Botany neighbourhood' which shows it isn't that distinct from Botany and also is not an officially recognised suburb (which is why they use the term neighbourhood). Not sure what the 70 page document is meant to show. The single page document listing places is based on how FENZ classify localities.
 * The LINZ link confuses me, I believe it's based off openstreetmap? It doesn't say where the data is from and shows places such as 'Vauxhall' and 'Cardinal West', I don't see why Auckland Council wouldn't have it included in their official map that they point ratepayers to nor would it be in the Gazetter if it were an official locality/suburb. Traumnovelle (talk) 05:40, 30 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Oppose per Prosperosity. Golflands is recognised by Statistics New Zealand as an SA3 (more significant than the SA2 it also is) and by the Post Office (it doesn't share the postcode with Pakuranga). Auckland doesn't have official suburbs - see Prosperosity's post at Talk:Manukau.-Gadfium (talk) 01:53, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Census tracts cannot establish notability. Traumnovelle (talk) 02:36, 8 June 2024 (UTC)