Talk:Palatinate (colour)

This page urgently needs an adding. Except, ah - there's the rub - just what colour *is* Palatinate? Everyone seems to have a different opinion. My understanding is that the colour derives from an historical sample of some robes, except they're believed to have faded over time. As a consequence, shades of purple worn in the name of 'palatinate' vary wildly all over Durham. As I understand it, though, the actual colour is a lot lighter than the mid, reddish purple often worn in Durham. DWaterson 00:23, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
 * I propose it does not need an infobox color, as they currently look, since making up some color values would certainly be original research. Notinasnaid 08:24, 6 September 2006 (UTC)
 * It's a hopeless case. I'm sure that Pantone 266 is what the University uses on its logo and its website - but the palatinate used on hoods is lilac and nothing like 266 at all - it's nearer Pantone 264. Gray's have been using that shade for at least fifty years to my own recollection: has anyone ever seen a hood lined with 266? Kranf (talk) 12:46, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

2019 corporate colour
I've not been able to verify the new corporate colour linked by an anonymous user, as the file is restricted access, but the colour does seem to be the one now in use on the Durham University website so I am inclined to accept it at face value unless any contrary evidence emerges. Robminchin (talk) 02:40, 14 March 2019 (UTC)


 * But now the article contradicts itself, while the statement in the archived communication from the Communications Office contradicts Pantone. I too cannot access the "Identity Guidelines, Version 1.0, February 2019", but presumably it has superseded the archived communication, which is no longer to be found on the website. A tabular overview of the various contradictory claims and practices:
 * {| class="wikitable"

! Who says this ! Name used ! Hex ! Colour Durham web pages*
 * Communications Office
 * Pantone 255C
 * #7e317b
 * Pantone
 * Pantone 255C
 * #72246c
 * Identity Guidelines
 * Quarter circle on
 * #72246c
 * Identity Guidelines
 * Quarter circle on
 * Identity Guidelines
 * Quarter circle on
 * Quarter circle on
 * Quarter circle on
 * Quarter circle on
 * Quarter circle on
 * #68246d
 * Article lead
 * Official purple
 * #72246c
 * Section Colour data
 * corporate branding
 * #68246d
 * }
 * * Next to the quarter circles on some web pages (the largest monocolour element), many other shades of purple are deployed on the web site. The coat of arms has #67246d, subtly less red than the quarter circle.
 * This is a mess.  --Lambiam 22:52, 14 February 2020 (UTC)
 * corporate branding
 * #68246d
 * }
 * * Next to the quarter circles on some web pages (the largest monocolour element), many other shades of purple are deployed on the web site. The coat of arms has #67246d, subtly less red than the quarter circle.
 * This is a mess.  --Lambiam 22:52, 14 February 2020 (UTC)
 * This is a mess.  --Lambiam 22:52, 14 February 2020 (UTC)


 * There is no contradiction between the archived communication and Pantone. Pantone defines a physical colour and the hex in the lead defines a screen colour. It is quite normal for there to be various different hexes for a given Pantone colour, depending on the light source used. As it says on the Pantone website "Please note that RGB & Hex/HTML values will differ between the PANTONE Color Finder and the PANTONE Color Bridge Guides due to different standards for print and digital use. For the PANTONE Color Bridge Guides we use the M1 lighting standard to align with industry standards for process printing. For the PANTONE Color Finder we use the M2 lighting standard to align with commonly used design software like Adobe Photoshop." The use of the Pantone Colour Finder code for 255C as "official purple" in the article lead was a mistake – it would have been better to use the official hex value. However, at this point it would probably be better to move to #68246d here as well. Robminchin (talk) 23:07, 15 February 2020 (UTC)