Talk:Pale

(Pale (jurisdiction))
The material I removed is now at Pale (jurisdiction)--Srleffler 21:57, 27 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Now, isn't that special! But no one bothered to comment here when that other page became a redirect to the accompanying Dab. --Jerzy•t 18:20, 7 February 2017 (UTC)

The Pale (Ireland)
The dates i removed from that entry start before the name was applied (by centuries, IIRC) and end before the date when it formally went back to Ireland. On top of that, since the accompanying page serves for disambiguation, expression of its period by start and end centuries mocked the Dab'n process: quick now, what years did the 8th century start and end? Fugedabadit! Describe the period as e.g. "c. 1230s - c. 1580" or whatever, or if that's for some reason (e.g. distinction among the period when folk said "The Pale", the period when there was an effective fence, and the periods when Brit or native ownership was complete or not) not workable, give up trying to pin down two dates or centuries in the Ireland case. --Jerzy•t 18:20, 7 February 2017 (UTC)

Pale of Settlement
I dunno if "area of restricted Jewish settlement" was simply backwards, or just obtuse in focusing on it not being completely free when in the rest of Russia it was virtually impossible. The purpose of a Dab page is to disambiguate; users should get the fine details from the article, not the Dab. --Jerzy•t 18:20, 7 February 2017 (UTC)

Pales apparently inspired by concept of fencing
The three senses covered by the three preceding talk sections were lumped as "historical", apparently in the sense of "no longer in existence", perhaps in the sense th e at anything still in existence isn't dependent on history being the basis on which it is real. I'm kinda old school, believing the present is part of history, and that Future History, not having occurred yet is nevertheless a matter of history, in not being just fantasy or fiction. (And i think if you stop and think about it, history's interest in the past if based on what it does to help understand the present and anticipate the future. So i found a different criterion for considering those three Pales a coherent group. Or rather, those three pales being pales in the same sense rather than just having "Pale" in their names, as ''Pale Horse, Pale Rider does, and all those towns and admin districts do. --Jerzy•t 18:44 & :49, 7 February 2017 (UTC)