Talk:Palestine sunbird

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Tautology and/or politicization of range
The habitat and range description, at first glance, before my edit just now, seemed to have been politicized, mentioning the range of the bird by country but omitting Israel and apparently covering the area whilst referring to the same state twice, namely Palestine and Palestinian territories. According to Wiki itself, the state of Palestine is tautologous as a geographical area with the Palestinian territories, so this description actually omitted the geographical area of Israel, where the bird obviously exists - assuming that a petty political point was not being implied that "Israel is Palestine" for which there is surely no need or place in an article such as this. In fact, on closer look, though written “Palestine” the word linked not to the state of Palestine article, but to “Palestine (region)”, in a way which, as I described, is misleading, which is not only inconsistent (since the rest of the bird’s range is described using names of states, and not geographic regions), but confusing and potentially misleading. So although one alternative would have been to change “Palestine” to “the geographic region of Palestine” and remove “Palestinian territories,” for the sake of consistency, and to avoid the unnecessary appearance of a politicization of an article about a bird, I have replaced “Palestine” with “Israel” and retained “Palestinian territories.” So as to be clear that I am not taking a political stance here, I wanted to give a fuller explanation here than the Edit summary allows. Mlevitt1 (talk) 10:49, 20 December 2017 (UTC)

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Claim of name change campaign seems unfounded?
None of the citations on “Israel's 2013 campaign to remove "Palestine" from the bird's common name” give evidence for the claim. 2 are about the choice of the hoopoe in 2008, and two are articles that claim the campaign was “widespread” but don’t give any citations, time frame, body behind the campaign, etc. Cursory google search also shows nothing. Does anyone have an actual source for this? TheMaddestHatter345 (talk) 07:06, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
 * I can't access the Haaretz article. The NBC one is indeed about the hoopoe, but it is relevant wrt the sunbird losing out to the hoopoe in a previous year; moved to correct statement. The GulfNews article seems reliable and well sourced? -- Elmidae (talk · contribs) 08:39, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
 * The gulfnews article didn’t say who or what the campaign was organized by, which was what confused me - and I couldn’t find any record of it in Israeli or Hebrew-language media, which is odd if it was indeed a widespread campaign TheMaddestHatter345 (talk) 02:50, 22 March 2024 (UTC)
 * I mention this because there’s a big difference between a campaign being waged by a handful of extremists and a widespread movement with general appeal and consensus. TheMaddestHatter345 (talk) 02:52, 22 March 2024 (UTC)
 * I'm an Israeli birdwatcher, this imagined campaign is absolutely nonsense. I've never heard of it, and I couldn't find a single source in Hebrew.
 * Also, I found this thread in reddit where people also tried to track down this campaign and couldn't find any evidence:
 * The GulfNews article didn't even use a picture of the right sunbird species, and claimed Israel wanted to change its name to "Orange Bird", also it's actually blue. YedidyaPopper (talk) 13:11, 25 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Also it seems a particularly odd claim considering the Hebrew name of the bird doesn’t reference Palestine at all? It’s just צופֿית. TheMaddestHatter345 (talk) 20:48, 10 April 2024 (UTC)
 * The Hebrew name indeed doesn't reference Palestine, the accepted name today is "צופית בוהקת", which roughly translates to shiny or glaring sunbird.
 * The fact that the Hebrew name doesn't follow the English name is quite common, unfortunately the modern Hebrew zoologists were often a little too creative in naming species. YedidyaPopper (talk) 13:37, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
 * I have been looking into this for a few months and I believe you are correct. Also wanted to add that the GulfNews article claims that the Palestine Wildlife Society was involved in preventing the name change, yet as far as I can tell, it is not mentioned anywhere on their website
 * Anecdotally, I have an (English) Israeli pocket guide on common birds from the Jerusalem Bird Observatory, and it uses the name Palestine sunbird. Tzuffit (talk) 03:16, 22 May 2024 (UTC)