Talk:Palestinian People's Party

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Not really, PPP works in all of the Occupied territories except for the Golan Heights. (which includes East Jerusalem) Palestine-info 00:21, 20 Jan 2005 (UTC)
 * The areas controlled by the P.A. are arguably not "occupied" by any measure, and in any event your edit just adds POV, not information. Jayjg |  (Talk)  03:09, 20 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Not many argues that. Furthermore, which areas are controlled by the PA? Palestine-info 11:45, 20 Jan 2005 (UTC)


 * It might behoove you to investigate exactly which areas are controlled by the P.A. And that still doesn't address the other issue, which is what specific knowledge does adding the word "occupied" give the reader in relation to this specific article?  Remember, this article is not an article outlining the status of the territories, but rather describing a Palestinian political party.  Wikipedia is not a soapbox, and articles should not be used to advance unrelated political agendas. Jayjg  |  (Talk)  15:25, 20 Jan 2005 (UTC)

"Occupied territories" is a non-political phrase that refers to the territories that Israel occupies. It is the most common phrase used when referring to the West Bank and the Gaza Strip together. I suspect that your resistance to the phrase comes from some Israeli declarations that use the phrase "disputed territories" instead. However, that has not catched on in the mainstream. Palestine-info 17:37, 26 Jan 2005 (UTC)


 * You fail to address the issue at hand; the phrase inserted adds no information, merely confusion. West Bank and Gaza Strip are as accurate as one can get.  Please avoid inserting superfluous verbiage for political purposes. Jayjg  |  (Talk)  17:40, 26 Jan 2005 (UTC)

The preferred wording is "Occupied territories." You replaced that with WB and GS. I tried to work out a compromise. In fact, I agree with you that the mention of WB and GS is superflous verbiage inserted for political purpouses, but I'm content in retaining it for the sake of solving this dispute. Palestine-info 18:57, 26 Jan 2005 (UTC)

"Preferred" in what sense? It's clear you prefer it, but that appears to be for political purposes. Occupied Territories is ambiguous, as your many early attempts at links showed, whereas West Bank and Gaza Strip are exact. Jayjg |  (Talk)  19:55, 26 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Consult google. Not my fault that Occupied territories on WP refers to a discussion about occupied territories in general. Palestine-info 12:01, 27 Jan 2005 (UTC)


 * I did, and look what it found: "Of course, many of the Black people in Indonesia live in the occupied territories, most notably the Papuans of Irian Jaya" "The occupied territories are Tibet, East Turkistan, "Inner" Mongolia and Manchuria."  "the occupied territories of the Republic of Azerbaijan"  "the occupied territories of the Soviet Union"  etc.  Tens of thousands of links like this. Please respond to the issue at hand; the term is vague, and adds nothing to the text. Please stop using Wikipedia as a platform for political advocacy. Jayjg  |  (Talk)  16:27, 27 Jan 2005 (UTC)

A few yes. An overwhelming majority of the 771,000 google hits refer to the Israeli-occupied territories. Palestine-info 17:09, 1 Feb 2005 (UTC)


 * Again, the usage is confused, and your addition of text adds only confusion, but no meaning. Superfluous text added for political purposes is not helpful. Jayjg (talk)  17:18, 1 Feb 2005 (UTC)

"the usage is confused"? Does this mean "I don't agree with how the phrase is used"? It is a fact that Occupied territories refers to WB and GS. And since writing "Occupied territories" hasn't caused any confusion to anyone anywhere yet, your assertion about "confused" is unproven. Palestine-info 10:35, 2 Feb 2005 (UTC)


 * It is a fact that the phrase is also used to refer to other areas. As well, does the PPP operate in East Jerusalem?  Are they part of the "Occupied Territories" or not?  West Bank and Gaza Strip are exact, adding the phrase "Occupied territories" adds no information that is relevant to this article.  You still have not responded to that obvious point. Jayjg (talk)  17:20, 2 Feb 2005 (UTC)

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