Talk:Paliath Achan

Requested move
Paliam → Paliath Achan – As discussed on AfD page. WP is not a genealogy database, but the Paliath Achans are notable.

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 * Support as nominator. ~ trialsanderrors 20:51, 24 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Support found some online reliable sources (see my AFD comment) for that title, did not find any for the family as a whole. GRBerry 17:30, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

Discussion

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 * Paliath Achan is a royal title, and it "means" the eldest male from Paliam family. So if you move it to Paliath Achan, the article will in turn have to describe this Paliam family.(Plus, the whole thing has to be rewritten). Therefore, in my opinion, this article should remain as such, and another article called Paliath Achan should be created. Besides, I dont see why this needs to be deleted as there are many other articles on royal families on Wikipedia. -- thunderboltza.k.a.D e epu Joseph14:40, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
 * The issue is that no-one could produce outside sources to use on a Paliam family article during the AfD, and in addition it runs afoul of WP:NOT a genealogy site. The Paliath Achan are a notable part of the family and the article should focus on them. If there is enough material to cover more family members it might make sense to start an article on them. ~ trialsanderrors 00:00, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

Result:moved
Moved per consensus. -- Kim van der Linde at venus 22:34, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

Added pictures and list of Paliath Achans
I added pictures of the Paliam Naalukettu and a picture of a Paliath Achan. I need to find out which Valiyachan it actually is. I've also added a list of Paliath Achans --Vivin Paliath (വിവി൯ പാലിയത്)  18:21, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

Requesting change
Title of name list ... as all the male members of the family are Paliath Achan as their surnames are Achan and the senior most male member is called the VELLIA ACHAN. And the changes so forth. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Epistemphobic (talk • contribs) 22:47, 3 August 2011 (UTC)

caste
hey the travancore state manual mentions that the paliath achan was a kiriyathil nair (Shudra he lowest in varnasrama tier) with the menon title (Head Clerk) ...he is refered to as the paliath menon in the same....perhaps tht could be added...Manu

btw the paliath achan must have been of some consequence even before he became prime minister of cochin...he is mentioned as a witness with other princes in the copper plate granted in the 3rd centry ad to the jews by the travancore king Manu

Added references
I have added in-text references. I still need to get some more. Some are from newspaper clippings I remember seeing back home in India. I'll try and get the newspaper name, issue no., and date. -- vi5in [talk] 20:19, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

Tags
Avinesh, this is a B-class article. If you have specific issues, please point them out. -- vi5in [talk] 17:05, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

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