Talk:Palilalia

Is
Is this term also associated with impulsive spelling? Such as spelling words under one's breath (or silently to oneself) before and after saying them, and then repeating this spelling rhythmically throughout one's life with no real explanation, cause, or apparent control?

Wow! I finally found it!
Wow. I finally found the name of this strange habit of mine. And do you know what's the strangest part? That's how I learned English: by constantly repeating in English what I say in Spanish. Da nuke 02:50, 30 September 2006 (UTC)


 * My brother has Asperger's, but many, many years before that, I noticed that right after he said something, he would repeat part or all of it softly, in an undertone, as if he was correcting his pronunciation of it softly to himself to try to correct any deficiency he perceived in how he said it. It seemed very weird to me.  Does this qualify as Palilaia, even though it was spoken in an undertone, a sort of whisper to oneself? GBC (talk) 20:06, 7 August 2018 (UTC)

Written components?
Does this also have a written language component? because I also do this when writing\typing (in addition to speaking aloud) 75.15.203.108 22:35, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

Etymology?
Does anyone know/ can look up the etymology of this word? I'm curious what the "pali-" prefix means —Preceding unsigned comment added by  Cronus91 (talk • contribs) 22:50, June 10, 2007
 * I have it somewhere; will look. Give me a day or so.  Sandy Georgia  (Talk) 22:54, 10 June 2007 (UTC)
 * hmm, instead of digging through my files, I just went online and found this. Sandy Georgia  (Talk) 22:56, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

Interesting concept
But this article sucks. Somebody please expand, as I am interested in learning more about this symptom I've had up till fourteen or fifteen. — Preceding unsigned comment added by DEADFORWEEKS (talk • contribs) 03:46, 7 March 2011 (UTC)

Clean up
I have begun cleaning up this article for: Still working, Sandy Georgia (Talk) 23:27, 18 November 2012 (UTC)
 * 1) MEDMOS
 * 2) WP:MEDRS (please use secondary reviews-- they are available-- primary sources should be used sparingly if at all)
 * 3) WP:MSH
 * 4) copyedit
 * 5) WP:CITE, corrected the citation style that was changed.

Changes to Signs and Symptoms
So for describing palilalic repetitions, they are hard to categorize into one definite sound, as they tend to vary from person to person and even word to word. Multiple studies (as well as a few textbooks) have discussed variations on palilalia, including loss of the ability to terminate a sentence, premature initiation, addition of syllables, and the continuation of automatic speech. These are only related to automatic or spontaneous spoken words, as reading aloud produces a couple other forms of palilalia. Furthermore, several studies have mentioned a "classification system" for palilalia, types A and B, which differ in that the former has repetitions accompanied by a change in pitch, amplitude, and temp. Khuang35 (talk) 17:43, 19 November 2012 (UTC)

Cleanup needed

 * 1) Books are missing page numbers and in some cases other information (like year, ISBSN) as well.
 * 2) Sources disagree on who first described the condition-- I corrected.
 * 3)  is a 1927 source, we should be using it sparingly if at all.
 * 4) From what source comes the notion that Palilaia is an acquired speech disorder, and why don't we mention in the lead that it's a tic?  This article is written mostly from speech therapy sources to the exclusion of information about Tourette syndrome, where the tic is most frequently found.
 * 5)  is a primary source, used to add speculation to the article.  Since it is an old study, it should have been reviewed by now, and we should not be using that info unless it is contained in secondary reviews.
 * 6) "Unlike echolalia, palilalic repetitions are often[citation needed][dubious – discuss] the speaker's own words, rather than words spoken by others."  Where did that come from?  source?  Palilalia is repeating one's own words, echolalia is repeating others.  What's with "often"?
 * 7) Cut-and-paste plagiarism removed here; I do not have the rest of the sources, but the entire article needs to be checked for copyvio.
 * 8) Not a secondary review, source misrepresented, removed text since that is not what the source says at all.   The entire article needs to be checked for accuracy.  Considering now accuracy and copyvio, I'm considering reverting the entire article.

I will be unable to finish this today-- too much remaining to list. Sandy Georgia (Talk) 01:00, 30 November 2012 (UTC)

Treatment
Someone put treatments there please — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.61.133.5 (talk) 00:58, 17 February 2015 (UTC)

Inconsistent Diagnostic Labels
In the opening section of the page, palilalia is described as "a complex tic" and "a speech disorder." But then, in the "Classification" section, the articles reads, "Palilalia is considered an aphasia, a disorder of language, and is not to be confused with speech disorder as there is no difficulty in the formation of internal speech." Aphasias involve some kind of brain injury or damage, so it's not clear to me which palilalia is -- a speech disorder or an aphasia -- because it can't be both. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.76.90.61 (talk) 16:56, 16 September 2015 (UTC)

Relation to verbal stimming
What is the relationship between palilalia and verbal stimming (such as in people with autism)?

The lede sentence does say that palilalia is involuntary. Stimming is usually said to be strictly voluntary, with it described as a tic instead, if the behavior becomes involuntary. I know about WP:OR, but my verbal stimming (when it doesn't fall within the echolalia behavior) seems to straddle the line, being sometimes voluntary and sometimes involuntary. --Hirsutism (talk) 21:51, 15 November 2023 (UTC)