Talk:Palm Sunday Compromise

Notes to self:
11th Cir. TRO denial: --This is the corrected order should be referenced, not the original 32 page order:  31 pages:  PDF file (March 23, 2005) http://www.ca11.uscourts.gov/opinions/ops/200511556.pdf (Before Carnes, Hull, and Wilson)

11th Cir. TRO denial: (Court allowed Schindlers to file amended complain, adding 4 more counts, and a 2nd amended complain, adding a 5th count -Schindlers filed a 2nd motion for emergency TRO) 25 pages (March 25, 2005) PDF file: http://www.ca11.uscourts.gov/opinions/ops/200511628.pdf (Before Carnes, Hull, and Wilson) Alt: http://news.findlaw.com/hdocs/docs/schiavo/32505opn11.pdf

11th Cir. Rehearing denial: (Before Carnes, Hull, and Wilson) 1 page PDF file - Case No. 05-11628 (March 30, 2005) http://www.miami.edu/ethics2/schiavo/033005%2011th%20Cir%20Rehearing%20Denial%202.pdf

11th Cir. En Banc Rehearing denial: http://www.ca11.uscourts.gov/opinions/ops/200511628reh2.pdf Alt: http://news.findlaw.com/hdocs/docs/schiavo/33005ca11rhrng2.pdf  30 pages  PDF file - March 25, 2005 --Before EDMONDSON, Chief Judge, TJOFLAT, ANDERSON, BIRCH, DUBINA, BLACK, CARNES, BARKETT, HULL, MARCUS, WILSON, and PRYOR,* Circuit Judges.
 * * Judge William H. Pryor Jr. did not participate in the consideration of the Petition because he is recovering from surgery performed on Monday, 28 March 2005.

Questions: Where is that  eight (8) page  order, "ON PETITION FOR EXPEDITED REHEARING EN BANC" (Opinion March 23, 2005)? Judge TJOFLAT makes a good dissent, citing the "All Writs Act," 28 U.S.C. section 1651(a). I snagged this off the Internet somehwere, but it is not there now. Time to go looknig for it.
 * Found it: http://news.findlaw.com/hdocs/docs/schiavo/32305norhrng.pdf (Pryor apparently participated in this one.)
 * Alternate URL: http://www.scotusblog.com/movabletype/archives/schiavo.enbanc.denial.pdf
 * Alternate URL: http://abstractappeal.com/schiavo/11cirorderrehg.pdf

Motion before Supreme Court of the United States (seeking stay of 11th Cir. Ct. Appeals) 44 pages PDF file -March 23, 3005 http://news.findlaw.com/hdocs/docs/schiavo/32305scotusmot.pdf

One US Supreme Ct denial: http://www.supremecourtus.gov/docket/04a825.htm (Undated; HTML file) 1 page

Another US Supreme Ct denial: http://www.supremecourtus.gov/docket/04a844.htm (Undeated; HTML file) 1 page

Move to Government involvment page?
Should this page be integrated into the Government involvement in the Terri Schiavo case article? I can see good reasons to keep this separate, but some of the info is redundant, so it seemed we should ask.--ghost 14:02, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)


 * Well, I don't know. I think that the Palm Sunday Compromise, having been "federal," is separate and distince from the "state" Terri's Law; thus, I would link the two together -that is, put links to each on the other page, --yet, keep them separate. Also, if one page has links on it that seem good for the other page, of course, it's OK to have "redundant" information. Reasoning: A person may only visit one page or the other, but the links --and info0, should be available. That's what I think.-- G ordon W atts D ot C om 16:14, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Contrast of administration's handling of Red Lake High School massacre
I would like some input. In the week following the signing of the Compromise, the administration was harshly criticized for it's appearent lack of response to the tradegy in MN the same day. I was told by other editors that mention of this controversy, even when documented, was inappropriate on the Red Lake High School massacre and Terri Schiavo pages. So, is this the proper place? This controversy is a historical fact, no matter how uncomfortable, and I don't want us as a community to forget something that creates an important backdrop. Thoughts?--ghost 14:12, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)


 * I think it is a minor point, but the fact it (controversy / dispute) happened, and can be documented, makes it relevent. As long as there is not a preponderance of Pro Bush (or Anti-Bush) "historical facts," then mention of this is not going to shift the whole page to a POV article. The only argument against mention of the Red Lake situation is the fact that it may not be noteworthy enough, but I think that is is OK to mention, because it only takes up like one line or so, and thus its worth outweighs the page space it takes up.-- G ordon W atts D ot C om 16:19, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Dead link
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 * http://www.archives.gov/federal-register/laws/109th/003.txt
 * In Palm Sunday Compromise on Sun Jul 16 21:25:03 2006, 404 Not Found
 * In Palm Sunday Compromise on Mon Jul 17 17:26:41 2006, 404 Not Found
 * In Palm Sunday Compromise on Thu Jul 27 01:13:33 2006, 404 Not Found

maru  (talk)  contribs 05:13, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Un-needed, deleted. bd2412  T 13:09, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

Lack of quorum
Isn't any bill "passed" without a quorum in the Senate not a law at all? 71.203.209.0 (talk) 18:30, 22 August 2008 (UTC)


 * I came here to ask about the same thing, IANAL, but maybe the signing of the bill is considered to correct the procedural defects? That seems a bit shaky to me.  More generally, what was the political environment around the event?  Did the other senators know that this was planned?  Weren't objections raised against the validity of the vote?  Was the lack of quorum related to the "compromise" (and in what sense was the bill a compromise)? I think the article could benefit from some clarifying information. 98.207.93.138 (talk) 03:36, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

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