Talk:Palo (religion)/Archive 1

merge
There's a new article, Palo mayombe, which is similar to this article. Could someone who knows anything about the subject merge or distinguish the two please? Bubamara 4 July 2005 09:49 (UTC)

Please Merge Monte and Mayombe and distinguish from Palo Leyte
I think that discussion is limited here due to the paucity of editors in this area and hence a lack of people interested in the matter. However, as an active editor in this area (African diasporic traditions), i would like to simply present a conclusive case that Palo Mayombe and Palo Monte should be merged and a disambiguation page or disambiguation links must be created to distinguish the two forms of Palo religion from the Palo, Leyte page. I urge that this be done as soon as possible, because i am working in a bunch of pages that should reference Cuban Palo religious traditions collectively, but i have so far been unable to make the links because i lack a firm, decided-upon place for those links to land. As a hopefully fluent writer, i cannot work up sentence structures that direct readers to both Palo Monte and Palo Mayombe, but directing them to Palo as a collective religion lands them in the Philippines. I suggest creating Palo (religion) containing the merged Monte and Mayombe texts and Palo (Leyte) for the city to fix the problem. SPEEDY resuloution by someone with administrative experience and skill is required. Thanks. I am also posting this to Commander Keane's talk page, as the Commander has been extremely helpful to me in the past. NOTE: As part of the proper names of these religions, both Monte and Mayombe should be capitalized. Catherineyronwode 18:43, 18 April 2006 (UTC)


 * Catherineyronwode's ideas have been enacted.--Commander Keane 19:25, 18 April 2006 (UTC)

Ready for the Completion of the Palo (Monte, Mayombe, and Leyte) Change-Over
Hello again, Commander Keane.

I have integrated the entirety of the Palo mayombe (note dreadful and wrong lower case "m") article into the new Palo (religion) page. I have eliminated duplicated information, added new information, cleaned up the book references, and added an external link. (For the record, i am not a member of this religion, but i am a friend of Dr. Eoghan Ballard, the creator of inquiceweb.com, the external link i cited.)

The page now should read well, barring typos. Please look it over for me. If it passes muster in its new form, i would like to request the following further administrative changes. I will number them for convenience


 * 1) Palo mayombe (lower case m) should just Go Away because its text has been placed in Palo (religion) and the lower case "m" was a mistake from in front.
 * 2) Palo Mayombe (upper case M) should be created to function as a redirect to Palo (religion).
 * 4) Regla de Palo should be created to function as a redirect to Palo (religion).
 * 3) Kimbisa should be created to function as a redirect to Palo (religion).
 * 5) Palo Monte should continue to redirect to Palo (religion) as it now does.
 * 6) Category:Articles to be merged should be removed from the Palo (religion) cat list.

Thanks for your attention to this, and for allowing me to write for the WP. I am enjoying both the social and the intellectual aspects of the work.

This message is being duplicated at Talk:Palo (religion), so the history of the page can be understood by subsequent editors. :-)

Catherineyronwode 03:05, 19 April 2006 (UTC)

This quote is Incorrect:

Thus the entity "Nsambi Munalembe" (also known as "Nsasi", "Siete Rayos" and various other names) may be said by these authors to be the equivalent of Saint Barbara in Catholicism or Chango (Shango) in Santeria.

Nsambia or Sambia, is the name of the single creator God in this believe system, and is not directly connected to Nsasi or Siete Rayos in this way. The Connection between Nsasi/Siete Rayos and Saint Barbara & Chango are correct however. This is because the similarity in the energies and elements associated with this entity.

Confusing Section
This section is kind of confusing. Does it assume a knowlege of Jewish syncretism? It is not clear.

"Religious syncretism, Jewish in nature, but in particular turned christian with the use of the cross and images of Catholic saints as representations of the Nkisi, can be seen in some houses of Palo, called Palo Cristiano, but in other houses, called Palo Judio, there is no syncreticization with Catholic imagery." —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.104.204.13 (talk) 18:26, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

Grammar
In places the grammar is confusing. Since apparently Kimpungulu is plural and Mpungo is singular, I am editing the article to have correct and clear grammar reflecting this. 97.127.96.63 (talk) 03:44, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

Innacurrate Information
Stating that Palo began in the Dominican Republic is highly inaccurate. You can also add that till 1959 after the Cuban revolution that Palo was not really well established in Puerto Rico. The largest concentration of Bantu and Yourba peoples came to Cuba.

Edits Made to Links
Removed link to http://www.ifafoundation.org/ifa-palooil-water/. Neimark is an Ifa priest who is here explaining why Ifa initiates should abandon the "destructive" practice of Palo.

Removed link to palo.org as it no longer exists.

Dragula (talk)

POV tag removed
I see no bases for the NPOV tag, if NPOV issues still remain please discuss on the talk page. --Inayity (talk) 17:43, 13 November 2012 (UTC)

Edit War report to the talk page
Can the people edit warring report to the talk page?--Inayity (talk) 23:14, 30 May 2013 (UTC)

Bad habits
I am sure how hard it is to restrain oneself from old behavior and hold discussion prior to deciding these matters. Not the first time either, going on for years now.--Inayity (talk) 21:02, 16 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks for bringing that up.  Omo Obatalá  (talk) 21:23, 16 January 2015 (UTC)

Question regarding the origin of les Reglas de Congo
In trying to convert a redlink into an active link, I've come across some difficulty in defining the origins of the practitioners of "Reglas de Congo". The article, as I first found it, said they were "Congo people" which, when bracketed, creates a redlink. When you change it to "Congolese people", which I attempted to do, you get a disambiguation page which offers, variously: the modern Congo republics, the Congo Basin, and the Kingdom of Kongo. I think it quite possible that the original writer of the line in question had either the Kingdom of Kongo or the Congo Basin in mind, but as there's no citation for this passage, it's hard to puzzle out the intention. Is there anyone with a greater familiarity with this subject who could resolve the question? Tigercompanion25 (talk) 22:46, 13 May 2015 (UTC)

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