Talk:Pamela J. H. Slutz

Editing
I would like to edit the first section, but I do not see an "edit" option. How do I proceed? Pamtuya (talk) 17:55, 4 October 2017 (UTC)


 * Please read the Conflict of interest guidelines. In the future, if you or anyone else who is associated with Pamela Slutz would like additional edits to be made to her Wikipedia biography, please post your requests here on the Talk page, rather than adding them to the page yourself. We welcome your input here on this Talk page – especially if you have secondary sources available to back up any proposed edits – but direct COI editing is strongly discouraged on Wikipedia. This page has already been nominated once for Deletion due to inappropriate editing, and we'd like to make sure it doesn't happen again. Thank you. Cielquiparle (talk) 04:48, 7 June 2022 (UTC)

Awards requiring citations
This article is in danger of deletion, partly because it lists so many awards without citations. Here is one award which can be returned (by a neutral, independent editor with no connection to the subject) to the main article page once sources have been found and added. (Quite honestly, Wikipedia is not LinkedIn and highly decorated individuals typically do not get to list every single award they've ever received in their Wikipedia biographies – only their most notable ones with citations.)


 * In May 2003, she was awarded the Order of the Brilliant Star with Violet Grand Cordon by Chen Sui-bian, President of the Republic of China.

Cielquiparle (talk) 10:01, 6 June 2022 (UTC)

Wikipedia is not Ancestry.com
I have deleted this statement because it's unsourced, but also please keep in mind, Wikipedia is not Ancestry.com:


 * She became a member of the National Society Daughters of the American Revolution in April 2017, tracing her blood lineage to American Patriots Asa Dains (CT) and John Sluts (MD).

Cielquiparle (talk) 04:39, 7 June 2022 (UTC)

Missing Citations
Sorry, I am the culprit. I am Pamela Jo Howell Slutz and assumed that I, therefore, had "edit" privileges.

I have citations/sources for the following and would be happy to upload them to the page if provided directions on how to do so. -- MIT Seminar XX1 Fellow 1988-89 (copy of pages from the Seminar XXI Directory of Fellows) -- Recipient of the Mongolian Order of the Polar Star (photo of my framed medal and certificate) -- Recipient of the ROC Order of the Brilliant Star (photo of my framed medal and certificate) -- Member of NSDAR (copy of my DAR certificate) I am proud of this membership, but if you find it unacceptable for posting on Wikipedia, so be it. Pamtuya (talk) 18:17, 8 September 2022 (UTC)Pamtuya (talk) 11:49, 10 September 2022 (UTC)


 * @Pamtuya Hello Madam Ambassador and thank you for your response! Regarding the awards: The sources you have offered would be considered primary sources, and we have already cited the institutions that conferred the awards within the article (i.e., MIT, NAMBC, Hollins). What we are looking for instead now are a secondary source or sources that mention/confirm that you received those awards. For example, perhaps there is profile of you published by the U.S. government that mentions those awards within your biography? Or a State Magazine blurb that mention the award(s)? Cielquiparle (talk) 04:33, 12 September 2022 (UTC)
 * I will see what I can find. Pamtuya (talk) 13:12, 12 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Hello Cielquiparle,
 * I have found 2 citations for the Mongolian Polar Star award. One is https://www.nambc.org/docs/nambc_chairman_pamela/ and the other is http://mongolianembassy.us/2015/04/%d1%85%d0%be%d0%b9%d0%b4-%d0%b0%d0%bc%d0%b5%d1%80%d0%b8%d0%ba-%d0%bc%d0%be%d0%bd%d0%b3%d0%be%d0%bb%d1%8b%d0%bd-%d0%b1%d0%b8%d0%b7%d0%bd%d0%b5%d1%81%d0%b8%d0%b9%d0%bd-%d0%b7%d3%a9%d0%b2%d0%bb%d3%a9/#.YysUuhzMLIU.  The second is in Mongolian.  PamtuyaPamtuya (talk) 13:43, 21 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Hello @Pamtuya. Thank you very much for checking. I think these sources duplicate what we have already cited in the article, but I've gone ahead and removed the "better sources needed" tags, as it seems we've now done quite a rigorous search for better sources, and while primary sources aren't ideal, per Wikipedia rules, we're still allowed to use them with care. (I believe the main reason the sources were tagged in the first place was because we were trying to upgrade and save the article from deletion during the review process.) Another editor may disagree, but I think everyone would agree that the article is in much better shape now overall, so thanks again for your patience throughout this process. Cielquiparle (talk) 06:57, 22 September 2022 (UTC)