Talk:Panda Security

Advertisement
This sounds more like an advert and doesn't cover many aspects expected in a software page, such as a solid evaluation of the software.


 * Wouldn't be surprised if Panda paid some of his employees to keep the wikipedia page like an ad.


 * It still reads like an advert. So I would propose this article for deletion.
 * User:atenea26, 15:10, 25 July 2006 (UTC)


 * Look at the spam section, it's rather critical, how could it be and ad?.


 * Hardly not a advert, the productinformation is not up to date.
 * To remebre is that Panda Software is the world 4th largest antivirussupplier in the world (Gartner 2006)
 * If this is an advert, what is the difference between this and eg. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McAfee or http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_Associates for naming two compeditors?


 * I agree with that it does read like an advert with the information given and the way it's formatted.
 * User:fatla00, August 26, 2006

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This is a stub
I think that needs more information, in order to be complete.User:Atenea26, 15:15, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

Spam affair
the fact that panda sends spam isn't proved, but not occurs the same with fact that people complaint about panda sending spam. I think that it is clear. So, please don't start a edit war --User:Atenea26 10:00, 12 July 2006 (UTC)


 * Probably, it was a spam e-mail sent with a technique, which lets it look like it's sent by Panda Software, while it isn't. About the unsubscription link: this is a much used method to check if e-mail adresses are real. 83.118.22.146 19:08, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

The spam was as real as it gets. If you follow ref#4 in the spam section, and read the updates to the original article you'll find Panda's Product Manager acknowledging the fact, apologizing yet being powerless to stop the spam.

Scientology?
I'm concerned that the "Panda software and scientology" section has absolutely no citations. This is a pretty serious accusation to be leveling at it, and I would think something credible to back it up would be needed. --ZantTrang 20:42, 13 June 2006 (UTC)


 * I've removed it until such time as somebody is able to cite a reliable source in support of the connection. --Michael Snow 03:18, 15 June 2006 (UTC)


 * When Panda first rolled out its antivirus service, people were buzzing about it being either owned or produced by strict Scientologists. Any truth here?  If so it definitely this certainly merits noting in the article (as a matter of "the whole truth" and public safety).  Also, if this question is edited out without comment, you can expect to blow some whistles. 74.132.209.231 19:42, 22 June 2006 (UTC)


 * The existing link to whats suppose to be something about Panda and the Scientology is not valied (404). And from what I know this is not true, more than that one of (not all) the owners are involved in the church. But does what one of the owners do on their spearetime effect the company. I bet you found many owners to Symantec that has some "odd" preferences... ;)

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2001/05/03/panda_software_linked_to_church/


 * I have removed those allegations as they are not related to the company but to its founder. They should be in the founder's page. User:Berrinet 17 Sept 2006


 * This seems more like a religious attack on Panda Software. It has very little information on the technologies or how effective the product is.

I used to work there. They ran the company according to the Hubbard Managment System, which was part of WISE. It's a moot point now, though, since the new investors and board have ended this practice. 68.183.216.98 19:19, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

I have removed the following paragraph: "As of July, 2008 reports have surfaced claiming that Panda has reorganized and removed itself from WISE." How weird was this - "As of July, 2008"?! AussieHero 14:49, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

Can we agree that this scientology business does not belong in a company profile but rather in the founder's page? FranklinCovey, for example has no section on Mormonism, Ben & Jerry's has no section "Ben & Jerry's and Judaism", etc. As such, I am deleting this irrelevant section. Pozole (talk) 17:08, 6 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Scientology is more of an evil cult/organization than a religion. http://www.scientology.org/humanrights/news/020402.htm —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.165.243.53 (talk) 23:06, 10 March 2009 (UTC)

Criticism section
I am adding a rewritten Criticism section to help bring some balance to this article and work toward removing the disconcerting but accurate advertisement tag. Am placing the section towards the top so it doesn't get lost among the lists of available products. --CliffC 18:00, 6 November 2006 (UTC)


 * This criticism is unfair as those spam emails were an effort to discredit Panda Software and were sent from some malicious sources. Panda was never responsible for any of them and had no way to fight back, anyhow. This section should be removed for the sake of fairness-- Jpierreg 18:20, 6 November 2006 (UTC)


 * . Any citations would make a good counterpoint to the criticism, and might even be positive for Panda's image, as the spamming claims seem to go way back.  --CliffC 19:52, 6 November 2006 (UTC)


 * The criticism of spam seems to be an unverifiable hatchet job. In fact, one of the citations, a forum thread at pcpitstop, is posted by a person who received spam after trying GateDefender software. Gate Defender is in fact, a hardware appliance like sonicwall or barracuda that people, especially home consumers don't just "try". Why is the credibility of such claims not verified more rigorously? 76.243.67.57 13:18, 25 August 2007 (UTC)


 * He doesn't say he's using GateDefender, he's just pointing out the irony of receiving spam from the company that makes it. His post starts off "While this will probably seem sacreligious to users of Panda, what with their GateDefender spam filtering software, I keep receiving spam from PandaSoftware and cannot get them to stop. For two years now."  The English (or maybe just American English) phrase "what with" is equivalent to "considering".  --CliffC 14:03, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

The criticism section seems to be using weasel words, claiming "many" reports of spam abuse and citing 4 sources (including two that refer to each other), I have tagged it as such. Google searches for "Panda Software" and "Spammer" turn up the same 4 sources. I searched google on "spam from panda" per the editor's suggestion and turned up replicated permutations of "Panda software the worst spammer" and a total of 12 results. This spammer accusation seems to be in bad faith.Pozole 01:36, 27 August 2007 (UTC)


 * I agree that "many" is unclear as to how many spammed users it represents; I've changed it to "some". Looking a little further at spam complaints that have been made public, I found that the information and review site Broadband Reports (not one of the four cited in the article) has at least two lengthy threads devoted to complaints about spam from Panda, including mail headers and screenshots.
 * SPAM from panda ? - 3 pages, about 50 items
 * Panda Still Spamming - 7 pages, about 120 items.
 * Of course not every one of these items is a unique report, but it does seem that the "only" four sources cited in the article represent a broader problem. --CliffC 01:59, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

My criticism is that I have their software. I got a virus. The software said the virus was removed, but my computer became disabled anyway. I went on another computer and e-mailed them asking for urgent help, as this is my home office computer and I got no response whatsoever. This is after 3 or 4 years as a Panda customer. I went on their user forums and found that at least one other person had also been completely unable to contact them for support. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Skysong263 (talk • contribs) 21:09, 18 January 2010 (UTC)

My criticism is that bulletin pop-ups cannot be disabled. It is unacceptable in some situations. Andrej7 (talk) 09:17, 24 November 2011 (UTC)
 * http://www.amazon.com/Panda-Global-Protection-2011-3-PC/product-reviews/B003Y6FHK0
 * http://betelgeusezero.blogspot.com/2011/03/panda-pop-ups.html

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Proposed Merge of TruPrevent Technologies
I think that this article should be merged into Panda Security. It's not notable enough to have its own article, but should exist as part of this one. Tnxman307 (talk) 20:46, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

"Cloud"?
In the lead (intro) section: "Panda Security spots market opportunity with cloud"...What is cloud exactly? Is that referring to the free version of Panda Security called "Panda Cloud Anti-virus?" I just don't understand what "cloud" means exactly in the context of the sentence that I quoted. Could this be clarified or written for the layperson, or wikilinked, if there is an article for the term "cloud" that fits the context? Thanks, 24.10.181.254 (talk) 14:49, 3 July 2010 (UTC)


 * I also wondered why any editor who is not half asleep would not have a link to Cloud, so I added one. The relevant article is Cloud technology. (I spend a ridiculous amount of time constantly adding links in articles that need them.) Mike Hayes (talk) 20:21, 3 November 2014 (UTC)

External Technologies
External Technologies, with which Panda was involved in a law-suit, does not have an article. I tried to look it up on the Internet and had difficulty finding it. It seemed to be defunct. Finally I found an article from GDS Transnational entitled " Partner Case Study - External Technologies, Inc." There is a photo in the article of a Teresa Hartsfield. On a website listing of External Technologies by Manta it mentioned a Brent Hartsfield as the "principal". So what's going on with them and why are they being so secretive? Are they trying to dissociate themselves from the lawsuit in which they lost? Mike Hayes (talk) 20:55, 3 November 2014 (UTC)

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