Talk:Panera Bread

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new quote
anybody have any background to the quote on this page? i think its unnecessary and should be deleted. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lumpy3 (talk • contribs) 02:58, 2 July 2007

"They are slightly more expensive than a typical fast-food eatery, however the food is also nicer"


 * This is POV, though I agree completely :-) --Ihope127 03:14, 19 August 2005 (UTC)


 * See the description for Fast casual restaurant, and I think you'll see that it seems to fit in that category. Dr. Cash 22:09, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

This entry is terrible.
Grammar is poor, and any informational content is smothered under the advertising hype for the product.

This is an encyclopedia, not a commercial. Fix it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.42.197.94 (talk • contribs) 19:51, 14 November 2005
 * not to mention the four orphan sentences at the end. didn't most wikipedians learn about paragraphs in fourth grade? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.169.62.96  (talk • contribs) 22:56, 1 January 2006

I cleaned up this article in several ways. Added the Company Infobox to the right, as well as rewrote the opening paragraph info (there was a lot of inaccurate information there, based on reading info from the Panera website). I also added a corporate history section (mostly paraphrased from the Panera website, but also added the charitable giving details and awards there as well). I removed the link to Atlanta Bread Company - I cannot find anything on ABC's website that says they had any connection to Panera, though the companies are similar in nature. Not even in the Management Bios does it mention Panera. I did add a link to the Fast casual restaurant page, as this seems to fit. Hopefully, the article is of higher standard now. Dr. Cash 22:08, 2 January 2006 (UTC)
 * That section doesn't even make sense - that ABP got rid of everything but Panera, and renamed it Panera? I am rewriting that section (using the Panera Bread FAQ that we seemed to have copied over and in the attempt to not copy-violate, we scrambled it. Hopefully it'll be better. Janet13 02:24, 18 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Contradiction? People keep inserting that those in St. Louis are called St. Louis Bread Co but their website says "the concept" was renamed Panera Bread - does that mean a company concept but no physical name change? Someone help! Janet13 06:01, 18 January 2006 (UTC)
 * In the St. Louis area, the stores are indeed called "The St. Louis Bread Company". Outside of the St. Louis area, they're called "Panera Bread."  I don't quite understand the logic of it either, but that's the way it is. Amnewsboy 15:24, 18 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Thanks. :) Janet13 04:44, 20 January 2006 (UTC)
 * They are still known as "St. Louis Bread Company" in St. Louis only for two reasons. First, when the company initially expanded to other large cities with high regional loyalty, having the name of a rival city (i.e. sports, etc.) was less than helpful. So the company researched and developed the "Panera" label for expansion outside St. Louis. Second, they kept the St. Louis moniker inside the city because of the local affinity for the name. Guests were adament they keep it, as they considered it part of the community. From the outside looking in, it may seem confusing, but St. Louisans are completely familiar. Crazyfortheblue 08:43, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

I've removed the information on their charity and awards because they sound like advertising. The decor description was a little suspect as well so I also removed that. As it stands the article does not look to me like an advertisement so I removed the tag. Barrylb 06:31, 3 January 2006 (UTC)

In addition, the information about panini customizablity being low, while I have found it to be true in my experience, reeks of bias. Perhaps a section could be added on common customer complaints? Forteblast 23:23, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

I'm not sure what information was listed before edits, maybe it was advertising, but some sort of information about their charitable donations should be readded. It is one of the few companies out there that purposely creates leftovers for the purpose of donations (as well as being able to have product available all day). $12 million a year in bread donations (according to their website) is certainly worth mentioning and is something I would hope to find in a wiki article. There are plenty of positives that could be added, like their move to have all natural, antibiotic free meats, for instance. Negatives might include things like fat, carb, calorie, and sodium counts for much of their menu. I'd add it, but I'm pretty poor at this stuff. 208.104.164.38 02:36, 26 October 2007 (UTC)godot

franchises
Not all of the bakery-cafes are company owned. Alot of owned by regional franchises. I work for one of them in New England as a Shift Supervisor.--Azathar 16:34, 18 January 2006 (UTC)

There are 3 types of Panera Cafes: Corporate, Franchise, and Joint Venture. Joint Venture cafes become fully corporate after 5 years if I am correct. 208.104.164.38 02:34, 26 October 2007 (UTC)godot

Meaning
I suppose it is just casuality, but at least in Catalan panera is a recipient formed by a hoop and a bottom of interwoven ropes, used to have bread in it and to serve it in restaurants. --83.34.178.181 09:02, 7 October 2006 (UTC)

Panera as a name is two Latin words put together- PAN=Bread ERA=Time PANERA literally has no meaning and that is why it was chosen but it could be viewed as Bread Time if you wanted to think of it that way. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Morry32 (talk • contribs) 07:12, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

"Internet Access" section
Hello, the "Internet Access" section is completely sourced except the "Sports Illustrated" sentence. Granted, the second source isn't a very reliable one, but at least it's a source. Any opinion on the "Sports Illustrated" sentence? I unsuccessfully tried to remove it. ~a (user • talk • contribs) 01:57, 7 October 2007 (UTC)


 * The need for a citation with that sentence is now noted. &mdash;Adavidb 19:50, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

Does this section really add anything to the overall article? Does it belong in an encyclopedic entry? To me, it smacks of editorializing on the part of a dissatisfied customer. The internet filtering policy is neither uncommon nor generally controversial nor particularly relevant to the rest of the article. Chevalier3 01:40, 21 October 2007 (UTC)


 * I don't think the article would suffer without this section. Its first two sentences could probably be appended to the lead section, if kept. &mdash;Adavidb 12:02, 21 October 2007 (UTC)


 * I disagree. Internet filtering can be considered controversial especially when sites with mixed material are completely filtered out.  As long as the section is well sourced, I believe it should stay.  Which means, the Sports Illustrated sentence, which is not sourced, should go.  ~a (user • talk • contribs) 14:32, 21 October 2007 (UTC)


 * Considering that the only source for the 'filtering' paragraph is a blog, and most blogs are not acceptable sources per Wikipedia policy, I don't believe it's well sourced. &mdash;Adavidb 20:52, 21 October 2007 (UTC)


 * The questions of whether or not it is well sourced is a secondary issue, the primary concern is the relevance of this information to an encyclopedia article. If the section is irrelevant, it should be removed, well sourced or not.  I agree with both Chevalier3 and Adavidb that this section does, indeed smack of editorializing or even activism.  I also agree with Adavidb that content from a blog doesn't qualify as being "well sourced".  That having been said, it is worth mentioning that content-filtering is used and which software is employed, but that can be limited to one sentence, which will give the anti-content-blocking crusaders enough information to do the research and find out what that software blocks (at another site/article, of course, as that would be/is irrelevant here).--William Thweatt Talk | Contribs 18:15, 24 October 2007 (UTC)


 * I simplified the Internet filtering statement to a single sentence in the article, and updated the source citation. &mdash;Adavidb 09:11, 25 October 2007 (UTC)


 * Nice. Good work, Adavidb (man, your name is hard too type...makes me feel dyslexic!)--William Thweatt Talk | Contribs 14:25, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

Menu section
I've removed the menu section as unencyclopedic. It was unsourced (though presumably a look n their website would provide most of the basics) but mainly it seems to be entirely inappropriate for an encyclopedia article unless there has been significant comment on it by significant third party sources. The content seemed to be more like marketing blurb for Panera than a neutral encyclopedia article. -- SiobhanHansa 21:17, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Removed again - without independent reliable sources indicating Panera's menu is anything extra ordinary this is POV and unencyclopedic. This article should not simply be repeating Panera's own marketing - it should be about substantive information about the chain. -- SiobhanHansa 22:47, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

Company Name
Why do people continuously remove information about the different name of the bakery-cafes in St. Louis? I think its pretty significant that all the bakery-cafes in the original city (of which there are a lot) are known under a completely different moniker. I don't see a reason for removing this info, it does not detract from the article one bit and is an important fact to know (I would like to know if a bunch of McDonald's were actually called "Charlie's" or something). Can somebody figure out a way to add this bit of info so it's acceptable to all editors? -- Elmedico27 (talk) 14:46, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

Corporate History
Hi, I work in the Marketing Department at Panera Bread and would like to suggest some edits for this page. Regarding the number of cafes, the company now operates or franchises 1,500 Panera Bread bakery-cafes in 40 states and 20 facilities that deliver fresh dough to the bakery-cafes every day. Panera Bread's co-CEOs are Ron Shaich and William Moreton. Patricia424 (talk) 16:10, 1 May 2012 (UTC)

Community Outreach
Should there be a mention of Panera Bread's community outreach? Panera Bread created Operation Dough-Nation in 1992 to formalize its commitments to community involvement. The program now has four activities: Community Breadbox cash collection boxes, the Day-End Dough-Nation program, Panera/SCRIP Card fundraising and participation in community events.

The Day-End Dough-Nation program provides unsold bread and baked goods to local area hunger relief agencies and charities. In 2010, Panera Bread bakery-cafes donated a retail value of approximately $100 million worth of unsold bread and baked good to local organizations in need. Patricia424 (talk) 16:10, 1 May 2012 (UTC)

Nutrition
Should there be info about nutrition since Panera was the first in its industry to voluntarily post calorie info at all company-owned cafes? Nutritional information is available on Panera Bread’s website for customers to view. The nutrition information provided is based on Panera Bread’s standardized recipes, representative values provided by suppliers, analysis using industry standard software, published resources, and/or testing conducted in accredited laboratories, and are expressed in values based on federal rounding and other applicable regulations.

Panera’s website also includes a nutrition calculator. Customers can browse the menu selection and add items to meals to see per-ingredient nutrition information. The percent daily values are based on a 2000 calorie diet. Patricia424 (talk) 16:10, 1 May 2012 (UTC)

Panera Cares
Is it worth mentioning how many people Panera Cares serves? Each site serves approximately 3,500 people every week. Patricia424 (talk) 16:10, 1 May 2012 (UTC)

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Lawsuits
Someone copied and pasted three paragraphs of content - and a number of links - from a River Front Times article about the same $5.75M settlement that was already discussed in the lawsuits section. I've removed the copy-pasted content and linked the Riverfront Times article as an additional reference for the settlement. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 140.147.245.103 (talk) 20:51, 5 April 2017 (UTC)

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Unrealistic
Impossible to have net income of less than 150.000$, and Revenues less than 2.5 million$. Probably billions. The source is also inaccessible. Needs fixing. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 46.198.207.19 (talk) 20:34, 9 April 2017 (UTC)

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The HQ address is at https://www.panerabread.com/en-us/company-information/terms-of-use.html

"Panera Bread Company Legal Department 3630 S. Geyer Road, Suite 100 St. Louis, MO 63127"

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NPOV
This reads like an ad. 124.171.161.114 (talk) 07:54, 6 December 2017 (UTC)

Awards and recognitions
Should this section be kept? A magazine over a decade ago said they had clean bathrooms? Healthiest fast casual in 2009 according to one list maker? I've removed some obvious cruft already, and want to bring up further pruning before doing so Randy Peck (talk) 23:30, 24 January 2023 (UTC)


 * As you've noted, this section's content is out of date and/or not particularly notable; I think it can be removed. Perhaps the Zagat sentence can be moved to the History section. —ADavidB 02:00, 25 January 2023 (UTC)


 * Has restored this spammy content. Can you explain why the article is better with it? You know the conversation is here, please engage in it. Randy Peck (talk) 23:12, 25 January 2023 (UTC)
 * I restored it because consensus to remove hasn't been established. While I agree that, as is, it's spammy and would need to have a good chunk of non-notable content taken out, there are alternatives to removing it entirely such as rewriting with reliable sources and more notable awards. Hence why I believe consensus for removal should be found first, as to gauge whether other editors believe it to be salvageable or not. Kirbanzo  (talk - contribs) 23:23, 25 January 2023 (UTC)
 * I considered expanding it, but ultimately, this style of restaurant doesn't get notable awards. The existing "cleanest fast food bathroom in 2009" award doesn't seem encyclopedic, it's not say, a Michelin star Randy Peck (talk) 01:07, 26 January 2023 (UTC)

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