Talk:Panic attack/Archive 5

Bibliography option for possible sources
Bakker, A., Van Balkom, A., & Spinhoven, P. (2002, September). SSRIs vs. TCAs in the treatment of panic disorder: a meta-analysis [Electronic version]. Acta Psychiatrica Scandinavica, 106(3), 163-167. doi:10.1034/j.1600-0447.2002.02255.x

Hettema, J., Neale, M., & Kendler, K. (2001, October). A review and meta-analysis of the genetic epidemiology of anxiety disorders. The American Journal of Psychiatry, 158(10), 1568-1578. Retrieved from https://doi.org/10.1176/appi.ajp.158.10.1568Guysmiley3000 (talk) 01:48, 7 February 2018 (UTC)

11% of Americans have a panic attack each year?!?
This is mentioned in the intro and it sounds a little nuts. 1 in 9 Americans have a panic attack *each* year? So if you have 27 friends/acquaintances, then 3 of them had a panic attack in 2015 for instance? Is this based on self-reports or what? A citation would be nice. Ceresly (talk) 23:24, 5 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Every sentence in the lead has a citation. This one is supported by the DSM5 ref provided. Doc James  (talk · contribs · email) 00:02, 6 October 2016 (UTC)
 * "So if you have 27 friends/acquaintances, then 3 of them had a panic attack in 2015 for instance?" That's not how statistics can be applied. If you take any *random* (first problem with your assumption) sample of 27 people, you get a probability that 1 or more of them had a panic attack in the last year.  This probability isn't 1 (meaning, it's not guaranteed that from a sample of 27 people, at least one had a panic attack in the last year).  The probability that three people in this sample had a panic attack in the last year is of course lower.  And the probability that exactly three people had a panic attack is different from the probability that at least three had one, and different from the probability that at most three (none, one, two, or three) had one. --jae (talk) 09:29, 28 April 2022 (UTC)

Europe - US disparity
'In Europe about 3% of the population has a panic attack in a given year while in the United States they affect about 11%.' Panic attack seems to be four times more common in the US compared to Europe. This is a strange result. No source is given for this statement. Is this true and why? Jose Mathew (talk) 14:30, 29 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Oh, there is a reference at the end of the paragraph. But the reason is not given. Jose Mathew (talk) 15:17, 29 October 2016 (UTC)

Need feedback
I had a couple thoughts about how to improve this article:

1. The introduction doesn't flow very well and I feel like it's a little difficult to read. Perhaps it could be reworded while still retaining all the information that's in the sentences currently?

2. The diagnosis section is a bit small. Maybe we could add information about different models or scales that clinicians use when they're diagnosing panic attacks?

3. The causes section could be transformed into a paragraph to make it a little easier to read. The bullet points are fine but there's a lot of information on each bullet points so it may just make more sense to turn it into a paragraph.

4. The epidemiology section is interesting but it probably needs more info?

5. The "experimentally-induced" section under causes seems like it would fit somewhere else. People look to Wikipedia to gather information and I don't think people are wanting to learn about experiments/research under the "Causes" section. Maybe it could be moved somewhere or given its own section and expanded upon?

6. I thought it'd be interesting to mention the role of neurotransmitters in the article but I didn't see anything about them in there. It could go under the causes section.

I have also collected some sources that I think are able to be cited on Wikipedia, although I'm new to this so I'm not positive. Anyone see any problems with my sources?


 * https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3628173/


 * https://academic.oup.com/ijnp/article/15/3/403/721159
 * http://www.scielo.br/scielo.php?script=sci_arttext&pid=S1516-44462012000500003
 * https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/646264
 * https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1444835/
 * https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2515914/
 * https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK430973/
 * https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2536545/
 * https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3071090/
 * https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1958997/

Broadleys (talk) 22:46, 1 February 2018 (UTC)


 * The lead follows the body of the article.
 * This "They can vary in duration from seconds to minutes, and even hours in extreme cases." is less informative than "Typically they last for about 30 minutes but the duration can vary from seconds to hours."
 * The prior version tells you what is usual followed by what can potentially occur.
 * The lead is written in short sentences, which might now flow beautifully for an English as a first language reader, but from what I have been told makes it more understandable for those who read English as a second language. Our goal is more to support the latter. Doc James  (talk · contribs · email) 18:56, 12 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Sources look decent though some are over 10 years old. Doc James  (talk · contribs · email) 18:58, 12 March 2018 (UTC)

PSYC-2701 Class Wiki Project
This article is already pretty lengthy and well done, but I believe there are some interesting topics that have yet to be discussed. Chest pain is mentioned, but there is no evidence provided surrounding the possibility of them being related or causal of each other one way or another (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24923348). Another topic missing from the Wikipedia article on panic attacks is the relation to sexuality, such as gay or lesbian (http://www.clinicalcorrelations.org/?p=4630). Lastly, there is a large number of people with panic disorder - approximately one-third - that are treatment-resistant, and there is no mention of this phenomenon within the article (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/26635099). I hope bringing these new sources to the table can possibly help a few more people, such as even myself, understand panic attacks. I am very open to anyone wishing to give me feedback on any or all of these sources before I begin my draft or write my final paper on this subject. Thanks! Rjbamber (talk) 22:30, 2 March 2018 (UTC)

Your sources look like they are pretty good, it might be interesting to see if you could find an article on the prevalence age has to do with panic attacks. If they are more prevalent in older or younger people, and why that is. I think you added some concrete points here so if you can't find articles on age then it is good how it is. Thanks.Jocelyne.perry (talk) 19:41, 13 March 2018 (UTC)

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