Talk:Pao v. Kleiner Perkins

Trial - where are the editors?
There is tons of coverage in reliable sources -- where are Wikipedia's editors:

http://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/2015/02/24/ellen-pao-trial-kleiner-perkins-discrimination-silicon-valley-venture-capital/23908291/

http://techcrunch.com/2015/02/24/as-ellen-pao-vs-kleiner-trial-gets-underway-a-number-of-power-players-to-take-stand/

http://www.wired.com/2015/02/ellen-pao-trial-day-two/

http://www.mercurynews.com/ci_27593487/ellen-pao-vs-kleiner-perkins-trial-kicks-off

http://blogs.wsj.com/venturecapital/2015/02/25/the-daily-startup-trial-starts-in-ellen-paos-lawsuit-against-kleiner-perkins/

http://www.forbes.com/sites/ellenhuet/2015/02/25/kleiner-perkins-trial-ski-trip-dinner-party/

http://recode.net/2015/02/25/all-male-ski-trip-and-no-women-at-al-gore-dinner-kleiners-chien-takes-the-stand-in-pao-lawsuit/ Ottawahitech (talk) 04:18, 26 February 2015 (UTC)

More coverage popping up at Google:

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/24/magazine/whats-really-at-stake-in-ellen-paos-kleiner-perkins-lawsuit.html

http://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/2015/02/26/ellen-pao-kleiner-perkins-pay-differences/24079277/

http://blogs.wsj.com/digits/2015/02/26/alleged-ellen-pao-harasser-contributed-to-key-performance-review-court-hears/

http://www.businessinsider.com/ellen-paos-attorney-just-showed-the-insane-amounts-vc-partners-get-paid-2015-2

http://www.businessinsider.com/ellen-paos-discrimination-suit-against-kleiner-perkins-goes-to-court-2015-2

http://recode.net/2015/02/26/follow-the-money-did-men-make-quintuple-what-women-made-at-kleiner-perkins/

http://techcrunch.com/2012/05/22/kleiner-perkins-sexual-harassment-lawsuit-ellen-pao/

http://techcrunch.com/2012/05/22/key-details-of-the-kleiner-perkins-gender-discrimination-lawsuit/

http://techcrunch.com/2012/05/22/women-at-kleiner-perkins-by-the-numbers/

http://techcrunch.com/2012/05/30/kleiner-perkins-partner-john-doerr-speaks-out-on-lawsuit-our-firm-does-not-discriminate-based-on-gender/ Ottawahitech (talk) 14:38, 27 February 2015 (UTC)

More from google news:

http://www.wired.com/2015/02/ellen-paos-lawyer-says-performance-reviews-changed-kleiner-lawsuit/

http://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/2015/02/27/tech-podcast-ellen-pao-kleiner-perkins/24148265/

http://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/2015/02/27/ellen-pao-kleiner-perkins-ted-schlein/24126271/

http://recode.net/2015/02/27/a-performance-review-that-changed-dramatically-and-paos-400000-severance-package-pao-v-kleiner-perkins-trial/

http://recode.net/2015/02/27/the-ceo-of-reddit-is-also-on-trial-on-reddit/

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/11442322/Silicon-Valley-boys-club-goes-on-trial.html

http://www.wsj.com/articles/correctionsamplifications-1425088378

http://blogs.wsj.com/digits/2015/02/26/kleiner-perkins-discrimination-case-turns-to-money/

http://www.sfchronicle.com/bayarea/article/Kleiner-Perkins-sexism-case-hinges-on-employee-6106535.php#

http://www.mercurynews.com/business/ci_27608540/live-tweets-ellen-pao-kleiner-perkins-sex-discrimination

http://pevc.dowjones.com/Article?an=DJFVW00120150227eb2rr3624

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/e6a83b1c-be6f-11e4-8036-00144feab7de.html

http://www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/0/b7b10c48-be7a-11e4-a341-00144feab7de.html

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-02-27/kleiner-partner-cites-queen-of-internet-to-show-women-fare-well

http://news.nationalpost.com/2015/02/27/these-countries-didnt-wait-for-patricia-arquettes-oscar-speech-to-tackle-womens-inequality/

http://www.bizjournals.com/sanjose/blog/techflash/2015/02/top-women-vcs-tell-how-they-succeeded-how-to-close.html

http://mainenewsonline.com/content/15023052-there-was-no-distribution-gender-discrimination-policy-until Ottawahitech (talk) 05:45, 1 March 2015 (UTC)

Mar 3, 2015 update:

http://www.bizjournals.com/sanfrancisco/blog/techflash/2015/03/in-sexism-trial-kleiner-vet-ray-lane-admits-he.html

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-03-03/kleiner-s-lane-tells-jury-partner-won-promotion-after-sex-affair

http://www.bloombergview.com/articles/2015-03-03/benner-on-tech-nasdaq-deja-vu http://www.cnbc.com/id/102445226

http://www.businessinsider.in/Kleiner-partner-Ray-Lane-on-failed-workplace-romance-You-cant-put-the-toothpaste-back-in-the-tube-/articleshow/46437898.cms

http://fortune.com/2015/03/03/ellen-pao-kleiner-perkins-facts/

http://fortune.com/2015/03/02/venture-capital-sex-harassment/

http://www.lexology.com/library/detail.aspx?g=d36bffc2-dd12-4c97-9265-5ad979fba8b4

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/silicon-valley-sexism-on-trial-in-steamy-courtroom-drama-2015-02-26

http://www.mercurynews.com/michelle-quinn/ci_27626951/quinn-mentor-and-protege-stand

http://recode.net/2015/03/02/revelations-about-mary-meeker-and-questions-from-the-jury-in-paokleiner-perkins-trial/

http://blogs.reuters.com/breakingviews/2015/03/03/rob-cox-silicon-valleys-boom-boom-room-moment/

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/mar/03/john-doerr-testify-sex-discrimination-ellen-pao-silicon-valley

http://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/2015/03/02/ellen-pao-kleiner-perkins-ted-schlein-cocky/24267571/

http://www.wired.com/2015/03/kleiner-partner-didnt-immediately-investigate-allegations/

http://blogs.wsj.com/venturecapital/2015/03/02/kleiner-perkins-partner-says-it-was-a-mistake-not-to-investigate-allegations/

http://blogs.wsj.com/venturecapital/2015/03/03/the-daily-startup-booker-moves-beyond-spas-salons-for-appointments/

March 4 google's
http://www.businessinsider.com/ellen-pao-trial-demotion-2015-3

http://www.cnet.com/news/ellen-pao-vs-kleiner-perkins-trial-kicks-off-with-mudslinging/

http://fortune.com/2015/03/04/the-broadsheet-march-4th/

http://gulfnews.com/business/opinion/silicon-valley-s-got-a-gender-problem-and-knows-it-1.1465742

http://www.mercurynews.com/business/ci_27637447/venture-capitalist-john-doerr-testifies-ellen-pao-sex

http://www.mercurynews.com/business/ci_27625501/live-blog-john-doerr-testifies-ellen-pao-sex

http://www.theverge.com/2015/3/3/8141053/ellen-pao-kleiner-perkins-venture-capital

http://www.wired.com/2015/02/ellen-pao-trial-kleiner-perkins-says-didnt-distribute-gender-discrimination-policy-2012/

http://blogs.wsj.com/digits/2015/03/03/as-pao-case-continues-john-doerr-confronts-surrogate-daughter/

http://blogs.wsj.com/digits/2015/02/26/alleged-ellen-pao-harasser-contributed-to-key-performance-review-court-hears/ Ottawahitech (talk) 15:33, 4 March 2015 (UTC)

Mar 5 (from google.com with the exception of law360.com)
http://www.forbes.com/sites/ellenhuet/2015/03/04/kleiner-perkinss-john-doerr-and-ellen-pao-a-mentorship-sours/

http://www.law360.com/articles/342963/kleiner-perkins-partner-launches-sex-bias-retaliation-suit

http://www.law360.com/articles/383968/kpcb-fired-partner-over-gender-bias-suit-atty-says

http://www.mercurynews.com/business/ci_27631147/live-blog-day-2-john-doerr-testimony-ellen-pao

http://www.mercurynews.com/business/ci_27645378/jurors-ellen-pao-discrimination-case-question-key-witness

http://www.mercurynews.com/business/ci_27444497/ellen-pao-seeking-16-million-sex-discrimination-lawsuit

http://recode.net/2015/03/04/a-star-witness-for-both-sides-somehow-john-doerr-makes-both-ellen-pao-and-kleiner-perkins-look-good/

http://blog.seattlepi.com/techchron/2015/03/04/john-doerr-testifies-in-pao-vs-kleiner-perkins/#31039101=0

http://www.todaysgeneralcounsel.com/executive-sex-discrimination-case-rivets-silicon-valley/

http://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/2015/03/04/ellen-pao-kleiner-perkins-john-doerr/24379105/ Ottawahitech (talk) 03:49, 5 March 2015 (UTC)

..and more from google.com

http://www.bizjournals.com/sanjose/news/2015/03/03/kleiner-sexism-trial-bares-disagreements-between.html

http://www.contracostatimes.com/business/ci_27637451/venture-capitalist-john-doerr-testifies-ellen-pao-sex

http://www.motherjones.com/media/2015/03/here-are-some-ridiculous-things-weve-learned-about-silicon-valley-ellen-pao-trial

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/23/technology/ellen-pao-suit-against-kleiner-perkins-heads-to-trial-with-big-potential-implications.html?_r=0

http://recode.net/2015/03/03/not-too-many-wins-for-famed-vc-john-doerr-in-first-half-of-testimony/

http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/03/05/us-kleiner-lawsuit-pao-idUSKBN0M10TE20150305

http://www.sfgate.com/news/article/John-Doerr-testifies-he-tried-to-prevent-Ellen-6115455.php

http://techcrunch.com/2013/04/11/following-kleiner-perkins-lawsuit-former-partner-ellen-pao-joins-reddit-to-build-strategic-partnerships/

http://blogs.wsj.com/venturecapital/2014/12/24/ellen-pao-adds-new-legal-firepower-in-case-against-kleiner-perkins/

https://angel.co/ellen-pao Ottawahitech (talk) 16:25, 5 March 2015 (UTC)

Links from other related wiki-articles such Kleiner Perkins Caufield & Byers:

http://www.businessinsider.com/lynne-hermle-orrick-kleiner-perkins-ellen-pao-2012-7

http://observer.com/2012/05/female-partners-venture-capital-firms-fem-kleiner-perkins/

http://observer.com/2012/05/kleiner-perkins-sued-for-sexual-harassment-and-gender-discrimination/

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/05/22/kleiner-discrimination-idUSL1E8GMAJS20120522

LINKS from article links

http://techcrunch.com/2012/05/22/women-at-kleiner-perkins-by-the-numbers/

from google.com

http://www.businessinsider.com/john-doerr-ellen-pao-had-a-female-chip-on-her-shoulder-2015-3

http://fortune.com/2012/10/25/a-tale-of-money-sex-and-power-the-ellen-pao-and-buddy-fletcher-affair/

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/06/technology/in-ellen-paos-suit-vs-kleiner-perkins-world-of-venture-capital-is-under-microscope.html

http://www.siliconbeat.com/2015/03/05/the-ellen-pao-trial-a-female-chip-on-her-shoulder-and-being-asked-to-take-notes/

http://www.slate.com/blogs/xx_factor/2015/03/05/ellen_pao_trial_revealing_details_of_how_gender_discrimination_happens_in.html

http://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/2015/03/05/ellen-pao-kleiner-perkins-stephen-hirschfeld/24453557/ Ottawahitech (talk) 20:24, 6 March 2015 (UTC)

Mar 7
http://www.bostonherald.com/news_opinion/national/west/2015/03/lawyer_defends_gender_bias_probe_at_silicon_valley_firm

http://www.bizjournals.com/sanjose/blog/techflash/2015/02/jury-in-kleiner-sexism-trial-hears-conflicting.html?page=all

http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/international/business/in-ellen-paos-suit-vs-kleiner-perkins-venture-capitalists-are-under-the-spotlight/articleshow/46480755.cms

http://www.mercurynews.com/business/ci_27663485/ellen-pao-trial-lawyer-defends-gender-bias-probe

http://www.mercurynews.com/business/ci_27649935/live-blog-march-6-ellen-pao-trial-continues

http://recode.net/2015/03/06/women-outperformed-men-and-a-sexual-predator-was-on-the-loose-kleiner-perkins-investigator-opens-up/

http://blogs.rollcall.com/technocrat/weekend-reads-ellen-pao-gender-discrimination-lawsuit/?dcz=

http://techcrunch.com/2015/03/03/kleiner-trial-is-a-front-row-seat-to-a-vc-firm-in-flux/

http://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/2015/03/06/ellen-pao-kleiner-perkins-sex-discrimination-stephen-hirschfeld/24496797/

http://www.wired.com/2015/03/women-made-money-kleiner-investigator-told/

http://blogs.wsj.com/venturecapital/2013/10/11/kleiner-perkins-reorganizes-its-early-stage-investing/ Ottawahitech (talk) 20:19, 8 March 2015 (UTC)

Mar 9
http://www.bizjournals.com/sanfrancisco/blog/techflash/2015/03/3-things-ellen-pao-must-do-this-week-to-win.html

http://www.dailydemocrat.com/general-news/20150309/apple-watch-event-ellen-pao-trial-live-blog-more

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/ellen-pao-to-take-stand-in-sex-discrimination-case-2015-03-09

http://recode.net/2015/03/09/lets-talk-about-what-the-ellen-pao-case-really-means/

http://blogs.wsj.com/digits/2015/03/09/ellen-pao-to-take-stand-at-key-moment-in-discrimination-case/?mod=mktw

http://blogs.wsj.com/venturecapital/2015/03/09/the-daily-startup-ellen-pao-scheduled-to-take-stand-in-kleiner-perkins-trial/ Ottawahitech (talk) 15:25, 9 March 2015 (UTC)

More:

http://jobs.aol.com/articles/2015/03/09/woman-male-colleague-at-venture-firm-relentless-in-affair/

http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2015/03/reddit-ceo-ellen-pao-harassment-complaints-fell-on-deaf-ears-at-kleiner-perkins/

http://www.bizjournals.com/sanfrancisco/blog/techflash/2015/02/pao-vs-kleiner-perkins-harassment-trial-starting.html

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-03-09/kleiner-jurors-hear-that-male-promotions-led-to-bias-claims

http://www.businessinsider.com/when-kleiner-perkins-first-offered-ellen-pao-a-job-she-turned-it-down-2015-3

http://www.businessinsider.com/kleiner-perkins-ellen-pao-lawsuit-sex-scandal-silicon-valley-2012-6

http://www.cio.com/article/2892312/it-industry/thought-leadership-means-never-having-to-say-you-re-discriminating.html

https://www.crunchbase.com/person/ellen-pao

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2986692/Woman-bias-suit-against-Silicon-Valley-firm-testifies.html

http://gawker.com/a-guide-to-the-sex-discrimination-lawsuit-thats-roiling-1689849734

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/technology/ellen-pao-testifies-in-silicon-valley-gender-bias-trial/article23374197/

http://www.mercurynews.com/business/ci_27677773/live-blog-ellen-paos-testimony-continues-at-9

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=11414657

http://recode.net/2015/03/09/liveblog-as-ellen-pao-takes-the-stand-the-test-now-is-likability/

https://recode.net/2015/02/18/five-key-points-in-the-kleiner-perkins-defense-of-the-ellen-pao-case/

http://www.therecorder.com/litigation-news/id=1202720100955/Pao-I-Wanted-to-Raise-a-Problem

http://www.siliconbeat.com/2015/03/09/pao-on-the-stand-complained-about-kleiners-culture-years-earlier/

http://www.suitsbysuits.com/Former-Venture-Capital-Partner-Gets-Her-Day-Actually-Month-in-Court

http://www.thefrisky.com/2015-03-09/un-report-finds-35-percent-of-women-worldwide-have-experience-sexual-or-physical-violence/

http://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/2015/03/09/ellen-pao-kleiner-perkins-silicon-valley-discrimination/24643821/

http://www.utsandiego.com/news/2015/mar/09/woman-behind-bias-suit-against-silicon-valley/

http://blogs.wsj.com/digits/2015/03/09/ellen-pao-to-take-stand-at-key-moment-in-discrimination-case/

http://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/2015/02/17/ellen-pao-kleiner-perkins-sexual-harassment-discrimination/23502787/

http://www.wired.com/2015/03/pao-takes-stand-portray-culture-bias-kleiner/

http://www.wsj.com/articles/kleiner-accuser-testifies-on-sexism-1425945182

http://blogs.wsj.com/venturecapital/2015/02/17/ellen-pao-lawsuit-against-kleiner-perkins-heading-toward-trial/ Ottawahitech (talk) 02:31, 10 March 2015 (UTC)

Mar 11
From google.com:

http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2015/03/ellen-pao-says-she-tried-to-bring-kleiner-perkins-to-the-right-path/

http://www.businessinsider.com/ellen-pao-trial-harsh-questions-2015-3

http://www.businessinsider.com/ellen-pao-on-ajit-nazre-2015-3

http://fortune.com/2015/03/09/accuser-in-kleiner-perkins-sex-bias-case-attacks-firm/

http://recode.net/2015/03/11/liveblog-day-three-of-ellen-pao-on-the-stand/

http://techcrunch.com/2015/03/09/ellen-pao-owns-the-room/

http://www.theverge.com/2015/3/10/8157441/ellen-pao-testimony-kleiner-perkins-trial-gender

http://venturebeat.com/2015/03/11/what-you-need-to-know-about-the-ellen-pao-lawsuit-so-far/

http://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/2015/03/10/ellen-pao-kleiner-perkins-discrimination-bias-gender-trial/24697491/

http://www.wired.com/2015/03/paos-credibility-fire-kleiner-cross-examination/ Ottawahitech (talk) 20:35, 11 March 2015 (UTC)

Mar 12
From google.com:

http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2015/03/ellen-pao-was-resentful-and-dismissive-kleiner-perkins-lawyers-say/

http://www.forbes.com/sites/ellenhuet/2015/03/11/ellen-pao-on-the-witness-stand-kleiner-perkins/

http://fusion.net/story/61399/ellen-pao-vs-sexism-in-silicon-valley/

http://www.inc.com/associated-press/ellen-pao-testimony-day-2-kleiner-perkins.html

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/12/technology/kleiner-perkins-portrays-ellen-pao-as-combative-and-resentful-in-sex-bias-trial.html

http://recode.net/2015/03/11/an-alternate-narrative-of-ellen-pao-emerges-under-cross-examination/

http://www.reddit.com/r/OutOfTheLoop/comments/2yludo/whats_this_thing_about_ellen_pao/

http://www.sfgate.com/news/article/Cross-examination-heated-at-VC-sex-discrimination-6128759.php

http://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/2015/03/11/ellen-pao-kleiner-perkins-lynn-hermle-sex-discrimination/24744049/

http://www.wired.com/2015/03/kleiner-lawyer-ellen-pao-made-co-worker-cry/ Ottawahitech (talk) 13:23, 12 March 2015 (UTC)

Mar 18
From google.com:

http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2015/03/ellen-pao-answers-jury-questions-frankly-in-gender-discrimination-case/

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-03-17/the-trial-that-makes-silicon-valley-shudder

http://mashable.com/2015/03/17/kleiner-perkins-ellen-pao/

http://www.newyorker.com/business/currency/the-ellen-pao-trial-what-do-we-mean-by-discrimination

http://www.npr.org/2015/03/17/393347548/sex-discrimination-trial-puts-silicon-valley-under-the-microscope

http://recode.net/2015/03/17/at-kleiner-perkins-trial-randy-komisar-accuses-ellen-pao-of-politicking/

http://www.theverge.com/2015/3/13/8200145/ellen-pao-lynne-hermle-reddit-kleiner-perkins

http://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/2015/03/17/ellen-pao-kleiner-perkins-china-singtao-daily-journal-ktsf/24905541/

http://www.wired.com/2015/03/kleiner-putting-ellen-paos-personality-trial/

http://www.wired.com/2015/03/ellen-paos-case-stacks-kleiner/ Ottawahitech (talk) 01:21, 19 March 2015 (UTC)

Mar 19
From google.com: *http://www.wired.com/2015/03/kleiner-keeps-trying-butcher-paos-claims/ Ottawahitech (talk) 01:36, 20 March 2015 (UTC)
 * "Can Ellen Pao Win?"
 * Report of analysis by employment law expert Bruce Fredrickson of Webster & Fredrickson in Forbes.com User:Fred Bauder Talk 10:20, 20 March 2015 (UTC)
 * http://fortune.com/2015/03/18/kleiner-perkins-ellen-pao-murphy/
 * http://mashable.com/2015/03/19/ellen-pao-trial-porn-star-conversation/
 * http://www.newsweek.com/ellen-pao-kleiner-perkins-john-doerr-buddy-fletcher-314293
 * http://recode.net/2015/03/18/how-kleiner-perkins-matt-murphy-fired-ellen-pao/
 * http://www.sfchronicle.com/bayarea/article/Final-hurdle-in-Pao-trial-What-must-Kleiner-6142740.php
 * http://techcrunch.com/2015/02/24/as-ellen-pao-vs-kleiner-trial-gets-underway-a-number-of-power-players-to-take-stand/
 * http://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/2015/03/19/ellen-pao-kleiner-perkins-sex-discrimination/25015843/
 * http://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/2015/03/18/ellen-pao-randy-komisar-kleiner-perkins/24936023/

Mar 20
From google.com ("ellen pao china daily"):

http://usa.chinadaily.com.cn/epaper/2015-03/12/content_19792994.htm

http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/world/2015-02/24/content_19642321.htm

https://www.facebook.com/AdvancioInc/posts/866485033419435

http://fortune.com/2015/03/13/in-kleiner-perkins-case-only-one-side-gets-to-discuss-ellen-paos-motives/

http://www.mercurynews.com/business/ci_27719439/live-blog-mary-meeker-testify-at-ellen-pao

http://recode.net/2015/03/12/kleiner-perkins-cant-talk-about-ellen-paos-husband-and-his-finances-judge-rules/

http://recode.net/2015/02/27/a-performance-review-that-changed-dramatically-and-paos-400000-severance-package-pao-v-kleiner-perkins-trial/

http://techcrunch.com/topic/person/ellen-pao/

http://www.unz.com/isteve/chinese-following-ellen-pao-trial-for-career-tips/

http://blogs.wsj.com/venturecapital/2015/03/09/the-daily-startup-ellen-pao-scheduled-to-take-stand-in-kleiner-perkins-trial/ Ottawahitech (talk) 14:02, 20 March 2015 (UTC)

Mar 21
From google.com ("ellen pao"+"ellen pao BBC"):

http://abovethelaw.com/2015/03/the-curious-case-of-ellen-pao-and-the-lesson-we-can-learn-from-it/

http://www.businessinsider.com/pao-vs-kleiner-perkins-lawsuit-lawyers-called-to-the-stand-2015-3

http://www.businessinsider.com/kleiner-perkins-trial-suggests-ellen-pao-was-fired-for-lack-of-cultural-fit-2015-3

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/ellen-pao-discrimination-case-silicon-valleys-sexist-culture-goes-on-trial-10057871.html

http://recode.net/2015/03/20/ellen-pao-and-the-case-of-the-mysterious-missing-admins/

http://www.shesource.org/news/entry/experts-on-israel-the-economy-loretta-lynch-nomination-gender-bias-and-worl

https://socialdashboard.com/news/ellen-pao-says-she-had-no-choice-but-to-sue-kleiner-perkins

http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2015/mar/13/ellen-pao-gender-lawsuit-silicon-valley

http://www.wired.com/2015/03/gender-problem-venture-capital-really-really-bad/

http://www.wmfe.org/sex-discrimination-trial-puts-silicon-valley-under-the-microscope/ Ottawahitech (talk) 19:19, 21 March 2015 (UTC)

Mar 23
From google news ("ellen pao”):

http://www.businessinsider.com/ellen-pao-can-sue-kleiner-perkins-for-damages-2015-3

http://www.cnet.com/news/ellen-pao-vs-kleiner-perkins-trial-kicks-off-with-mudslinging/
 * http://www.bloomberg.com/news/videos/2015-03-20/why-the-ellen-pao-sexism-case-is-so-important
 * http://calacanis.com/2015/03/23/mansplaining-the-ellen-pao-trial-fixing-the-gender-issue-in-venture-capital/
 * "Now, if you’re wondering what my position on all this is, here it is: I don’t know enough to make a judgement!"
 * "It’s super complicated, and that’s why there is a jury putting 100s of hours of their lives into sorting this mess out." User:Fred Bauder Talk 08:27, 24 March 2015 (UTC)

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/03/21/judge-oks-punitive-damage_n_6916772.html

http://www.mercurynews.com/business/ci_27760383/judge-ellen-pao-may-claim-punitive-damages-kleiner

http://www.quora.com/Did-Ellen-Pao-quit-KPCB-after-the-lawsuit

http://techcrunch.com/2015/03/21/pao-vs-kleiner-defense-rests-its-case-showcasing-a-different-side-of-the-story/

http://www.theverge.com/2015/3/21/8267273/judge-in-kleiner-perkins-trial-just-ruled-that

http://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/2015/03/23/ellen-pao-kleiner-perkins-sex-discrimination-160-million/25214583/ Ottawahitech (talk) 23:58, 23 March 2015 (UTC)

Mar 24
From google news ("ellen pao”):

http://abc7news.com/business/judge-ellen-pao-may-seek-punitive-damages-in-lawsuit/568457/

http://www.breitbart.com/california/2015/03/23/final-arguments-next-in-silicon-valley-sex-discrimination-case/

http://www.cnet.com/news/all-about-the-ellen-pao-kleiner-gender-discrimination-trial/

http://recode.net/2015/03/23/a-whos-who-of-the-kleiner-perkins-ellen-pao-trial/

http://www.mercurynews.com/business/ci_27771428/ellen-pao-lawsuit-forces-silicon-valley-re-examine

http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/The-not-so-subtle-sexism-of-the-Ellen-Pao-trial-6153829.php

http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/Twitter-sexism-suit-could-have-greater-impact-6153974.php

http://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/2015/03/23/ellen-pao-kleiner-perkins-closing-arguements/70338998/

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-switch/wp/2015/03/23/the-switchboard-twitter-gets-hit-with-a-gender-discrimination-suit/

http://blogs.wsj.com/digits/2015/03/24/pao-kleiner-closing-arguments-what-to-look-for/ Ottawahitech (talk) 14:26, 24 March 2015 (UTC)

Mar 25
Bits and pieces:

http://america.aljazeera.com/articles/2015/3/24/silicon-valley-gender-lawsuit-heads-to-closing-arguments.html

http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2015/03/ellen-pao-drove-the-returns-at-vc-firm-while-the-men-were-promoted-lawyers-say/

http://www.cnbc.com/id/102530566

http://www.marinij.com/general-news/20150323/ellen-pao-lawsuit-forces-silicon-valley-to-re-examine-its-ways/1

http://www.siliconbeat.com/2015/03/24/ellen-pao-dynamo-or-difficult-lawyers-offer-two-versions-in-kleiner-closing-arguments-today/

http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2015/mar/24/silicon-valley-ellen-pao-case-gender-discrimination

http://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/2015/03/24/ellen-pao-kleiner-perkins-closing-arguements/70369592/

http://venturebeat.com/2015/03/24/ellen-pao-wanted-kleiner-perkins-to-invest-in-twitter-in-2008-kleiner-perkins-passed/

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-switch/wp/2015/03/24/the-sex-discrimination-trial-that-rocked-silicon-valley-is-almost-over-heres-what-you-need-to-know/

http://blogs.wsj.com/venturecapital/2015/03/23/the-daily-startup-westly-group-plans-to-raise-new-fund-expand-its-focus/ Ottawahitech (talk) 19:19, 25 March 2015 (UTC)

Mar 26
From google news ("Ellen Pao"):

http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2015/03/ellen-pao-wanted-a-multimillion-dollar-payout-kleiner-lawyers-contend/

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-03-25/five-lessons-from-the-ellen-pao-trial

http://www.cnet.com/news/ellen-pao-trial-ends-on-plea-for-gender-equality-in-the-tech-industry/

http://www.forbes.com/sites/ellenhuet/2015/03/25/ellen-pao-kleiner-perkins-closing-arguments-distractions-level-playing-fields/

http://recode.net/2015/03/25/ellen-paos-case-ends-on-an-impassioned-plea-for-women-in-tech/

http://recode.net/2015/03/24/ellen-pao-v-kleiner-perkins-closing-arguments-made-the-money-v-wants-the-money/

http://recode.net/2015/03/25/live-day-two-of-the-ellen-pao-v-kleiner-perkins-case-summations/

http://www.sfgate.com/business/article/Twitter-sexism-suit-could-have-greater-impact-6153974.php

http://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/2015/03/25/ellen-pao-kleiner-perkins-sexual-discrimination-jury-closing-arguements/70425210/

http://www.wired.com/2015/03/paos-lawyer-work-men-got-credit/ Ottawahitech (talk) 13:26, 26 March 2015 (UTC)

+

http://www.cnbc.com/id/102537722

http://www.latimes.com/business/technology/la-fi-tn-ellen-pao-kleiner-perkins-closing-arguments-20150324-story.html

https://www.linkedin.com/pub/ellen-pao/0/18/712

http://mashable.com/2015/03/21/judge-ellen-pao-punitive-damages-kleiner-perkins/

http://www.mercurynews.com/business/ci_27786283/ellen-pao-sex-discrimination-case-goes-jury

http://www.motherjones.com/media/2015/03/here-are-some-ridiculous-things-weve-learned-about-silicon-valley-ellen-pao-trial

http://www.npr.org/2015/03/26/395604522/ellen-pao-trial-highlights-long-road-to-ending-workplace-bias

http://www.psmag.com/politics-and-law/ellen-pao-might-not-win-and-thats-ok

http://recode.net/2015/03/26/lawyers-reading-mean-tweets-how-the-media-influenced-the-ellen-pao-trial/

http://recode.net/2015/03/26/faq-what-happens-now-in-the-ellen-paokleiner-perkins-trial/

http://www.slate.com/blogs/xx_factor/2015/03/05/ellen_pao_trial_revealing_details_of_how_gender_discrimination_happens_in.html

http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2015/mar/25/ellen-pao-jury-deliberations-silicon-valley-sex-discrimination

http://www.theverge.com/2015/3/26/8281973/kleiner-perkins-gender-discrimination-trial-final-arguments

http://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/2015/03/26/ellen-pao-kleiner-perkins-verdict/70481558/

http://valleywag.gawker.com/tag/ellen-pao

http://www.vanityfair.com/style/scandal/2013/03/buddy-fletcher-ellen-pao Ottawahitech (talk) 01:02, 27 March 2015 (UTC)

Mar 27
From google news ("Ellen Pao"):

http://www.businessinsider.com/ellen-pao-trial-jury-questions-2015-3

http://www.businessinsider.com/ellen-pao-trial-most-stunning-revelations-2015-3

http://www.buzzfeed.com/ellencushing/the-real-revolution-of-the-ellen-pao-trial

http://fortune.com/2015/03/26/what-young-women-in-tech-are-saying-about-the-ellen-pao-case/

http://www.inc.com/kimberly-weisul/ellen-pao-imperfect-personality.html

http://www.latimes.com/business/technology/la-fi-tn-ellen-pao-silicon-valley-reasons-20150426-story.html

https://twitter.com/ekp

http://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/2015/03/27/ellen-pao-kleiner-perkins-sex-discrimination-verdict-jury-deliberation/70546316/

http://www.wired.com/2015/02/ellen-paos-lawyer-says-performance-reviews-changed-kleiner-lawsuit/

http://blogs.wsj.com/venturecapital/2015/02/02/reddits-valuation-becomes-issue-in-ellen-pao-lawsuit-against-kleiner/ Ottawahitech (talk) 19:55, 27 March 2015 (UTC)

And more...
Sorry if these are duplicates, I intend to spend some time on this article, expanding it with these sources... --Scalhotrod (Talk) ☮ღ☺ 22:10, 3 March 2015 (UTC)

http://www.wired.com/2015/02/ellen-paos-lawyer-says-performance-reviews-changed-kleiner-lawsuit/

http://recode.net/2015/02/27/a-performance-review-that-changed-dramatically-and-paos-400000-severance-package-pao-v-kleiner-perkins-trial/

http://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/2015/02/27/tech-podcast-ellen-pao-kleiner-perkins/24148265/
 * Thanks for adding sources. BTW I started ordering them alphabetically because there are so many (bliss :-) Ottawahitech (talk) 02:17, 4 March 2015 (UTC)

Low importance rating in WiikiProjects?
Please see Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Business Ottawahitech (talk) 05:00, 4 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Hey, I'm not disputing that this is an important case, but its hard to know its full relevance and impact until its concluded at the very least. Maybe we should just take the "importance rating" out for now? --Scalhotrod (Talk) ☮ღ☺ 17:30, 4 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Hey I am afraid my knowledge of how to rate articles is pretty minimal. I suspect your suggestion should be discussed   by the wikiproject members Ottawahitech (talk) 00:27, 5 March 2015 (UTC)

Partner?
"Partner" seems to be used at Kleiner Perkins in about the way "associate" is used at Walmart. But it may be a partnership… User:Fred Bauder Talk 16:51, 6 March 2015 (UTC)
 * LLC, whatever that is. User:Fred Bauder Talk 07:20, 7 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Limited liability company User:Fred Bauder Talk 07:21, 7 March 2015 (UTC)
 * The firm's operating agreement has details. User:Fred Bauder Talk 07:28, 7 March 2015 (UTC)

Week 1: the live blogger and the note taker
Liz Gannes and Nellie Bowles of Re/code:
 * "Five Key Points in the Kleiner Perkins Defense of the Ellen Pao Case" February 18, 2015
 * "What’s at Stake in the Ellen Pao Case" February 18, 2015
 * "Venture Capitalist Trae Vassallo to Testify She Was Harassed by Same Partner as Ellen Pao" February 24, 2015
 * "VCs in Bathrobes, Women Asked to Play Secretary, Angry Texts: Day One of Pao v. Kleiner Perkins" February 24, 2015
 * "All-Male Ski Trip and No Women at Al Gore Dinner: Kleiner’s Chien Takes the Stand in Pao Lawsuit" February 25, 2015
 * "Tech Startups in the Ellen Pao Trial: Z-A-A-R-L-Y, Z-U-O-R-A and T-U-M-B-L-R" February 26, 2015
 * "Follow the Money: Did Men Earn Quintuple What Women Made at Kleiner Perkins" February 26, 2015
 * "(to add to the confusion, Kleiner has shifted around its titles, and some of these partners are also called general partners)" User:Fred Bauder Talk 22:22, 6 March 2015 (UTC)
 * "The CEO of Reddit Is Also on Trial — On Reddit" February 27, 2015
 * "Performance Review Rewrites and Pao’s ‘Genetic Makeup’: Pao vs. Kleiner Perkins Trial Day 4" February 27, 2015
 * "Saint John to Take the Stand: Kleiner Perkins Leader John Doerr to Testify in Pao Case" March 2, 2015
 * "Revelations About Mary Meeker and Questions From the Jury in Pao/Kleiner Perkins Trial" March 2, 2015
 * "Kleiner Perkins’ John Doerr Takes the Stand in Pao Case: Liveblog" March 3, 2015
 * "Not Too Many Wins for Famed VC John Doerr in First Half of Testimony" March 3, 2015
 * "John Doerr Testifies in Pao vs. Kleiner Perkins: Day Two Liveblog" March 4, 2015
 * "Can you clarify the differences between the partnership titles? Doerr basically says, and I’m really paraphrasing here: Decisions about whether to invest or not are made by general partners. Managing members are the people who control the firm. Pao is suing the firm, not the fund."
 * "A Star Witness for Both Sides? Somehow John Doerr Makes Both Ellen Pao and Kleiner Perkins Look Good." March 4, 2015
 * "Women Outperformed Men and A ‘Sexual Predator’ Was On the Loose: Kleiner Perkins’ Investigator Opens Up" March 6, 2015

Can't post more links today
Looks like an article I started about the judge in the case has just been nominated for deletion. I don't have the time to work both angles, sorry. Ottawahitech (talk)

Problem with ref not supporting text
I tried to rephrase the Career section but I cannot find support in the inline ref for the following sentence : At her request she became a junior investing partner in 2010[9] with Ted Schlein as her boss but was passed over for a senior partner position.[6]

Anyone? Ottawahitech (talk) 21:32, 7 March 2015 (UTC)


 * Worked on it by using according to language. Source 6 is no good for this. Exact source for Ted Schlien being her boss is needed. No source actually needed for being passed over for senior partner but many of the cited sources would serve. User:Fred Bauder Talk 13:47, 10 March 2015 (UTC)

The same reference used 10 times in the article
The page refers to reference #6 10 times in the inline citations. Is this justified? Ottawahitech (talk) 21:00, 8 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Adam Lashinsky is a pretty good journalist known for his in-depth coverage of a subject. It's not surprising that a piece on which he is lead author is a rich reference. TJRC (talk) 21:39, 9 March 2015 (UTC)
 * I think there may be two Fortune articles using the same ref name. Need to be disambiguated. User:Fred Bauder Talk 13:51, 10 March 2015 (UTC)
 * But, [6] is used as an in-line citation when there is nothing in the article about the topic  (see preceding comment). Ottawahitech (talk) 02:41, 10 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Correct. Removed. User:Fred Bauder Talk 13:49, 10 March 2015 (UTC)
 * I was only responding to the question here, of whether it's appropriate to use a particular reference that many times. TJRC (talk) 22:25, 10 March 2015 (UTC)

Week 2: the live blogger and the note taker
Liz Gannes and Nellie Bowles of Re/code:
 * http://recode.net/tag/pao-trial/
 * "Let’s Talk About What the Ellen Pao Case Really Means" March 9, 2015
 * "Liveblog: As Ellen Pao Takes the Stand, the Test Now Is Likability" March 9, 2015
 * "Liveblog: Day Two of Ellen Pao on the Stand" March 10, 2015
 * "At this time, she was moving from her longtime role on John Doerr’s team to be a full-time investor." "Pao’s new boss was Ted Schlein, the senior partner on the Kleiner Perkins digital team" User:Fred Bauder Talk 17:09, 10 March 2015 (UTC)
 * "Ellen Pao: ‘I Wanted to Make Sure My Story Was Told’" March 10, 2015
 * "Liveblog: Day Three of Ellen Pao on the Stand" March 11, 2015
 * "Kleiner Wants to Introduce Financial Motive in Pao Suit" March 11, 2015
 * "An Alternate Narrative of Ellen Pao Emerges Under Cross-Examination" March 11, 2015
 * “You know he wrote the song ‘Hallelujah?’”
 * Pao said: “I didn’t know that.”
 * “Take my word for it on that one,” Hermle said. User:Fred Bauder Talk 16:02, 12 March 2015 (UTC)
 * "Liveblog: Day Four of Ellen Pao on the Stand" March 12, 2015
 * "Kleiner Perkins Can’t Talk About Ellen Pao’s Husband and His Finances, Judge Rules" March 12, 2015
 * "Kleiner Perkins Wrote an Employment Policy After Female Partner Complaints" March 12, 2015
 * "Liveblog: Ellen Pao Answers Questions From the Jury" March 13, 2015

Other media

 * "Kleiner Perkins Portrays Ellen Pao as Combative and Resentful in Sex Bias Trial" New York Times March 11, 2015
 * "The Ellen Pao Trial: What Do We Mean By “Discrimination”? Vauhini Vara New Yorker March 14, 2015
 * "Yet some legal experts argue that the doctrine guiding many legal decisions about discrimination still hasn’t caught up with the realities of workplace gender relations; they refer to “second-generation discrimination” that is influenced by subtle, even unconscious, biases against women. The existence of such discrimination can be hard to prove to judges and juries, who typically require that plaintiffs prove that an employer had the intent to discriminate. Melissa Hart, a law professor at the University of Colorado at Boulder, said that there appear to be more complaints these days “involving challenges to subtle structural problems in the workplace.” Will the jury instructions in this case require intent? User:Fred Bauder Talk 17:53, 16 March 2015 (UTC)
 * "Some scholars have argued in favor of more nuanced instructions—for instance, allowing an incident to be defined as discrimination even if the people involved didn’t realize they were discriminating, or allowing that discrimination might have affected an H.R. decision even if other non-discriminatory factors also played a role." User:Fred Bauder Talk 18:00, 16 March 2015 (UTC)
 * "A Re/code Timeline: The Ellen Pao vs. Kleiner Perkins Trial" Noah Kulwin, Re/code March 13, 2015
 * "Venture Capital’s Boys’ Club on Trial" MARCH 17, 2015
 * "Kleiner Case Judge Allows Ellen Pao’s Bid for Punitive Damages to Stand" March 21, 2015
 * "A Who’s Who of the Kleiner Perkins-Ellen Pao Trial" By Noah Kulwin March 23, 2015

Week three Re/code bloggers
Liz Gannes and Nellie Bowles of Re/code:
 * http://recode.net/tag/pao-trial/
 * "The Most Dangerous Meme in the Pao/Kleiner Trial: ‘Now, No One Will Hire Women’" March 16, 2015
 * "Expert Slams Kleiner Perkins’ Investigation Into Pao’s Allegations" March 16, 2015
 * "Liveblog: Mary Meeker Testifies in Pao/Kleiner Perkins Case" March 16, 2015
 * "At Kleiner Perkins Trial, Randy Komisar Accuses Ellen Pao of ‘Politicking’" March 17, 2015
 * "Judge Says Pao Needs to Do Better to Prove Case for Punitive Damages" March 17, 2015
 * “What evidence is there of malice, fraud or oppression (the standard for punitive damages in California law) by someone at Kleiner Perkins?” Kahn asked. User:Fred Bauder Talk 20:58, 18 March 2015 (UTC)
 * "How Kleiner Perkins’ Matt Murphy Fired Ellen Pao" March 18, 2015
 * "Kleiner’s Matt Murphy on Why Pao Failed as a VC" March 19, 2015
 * "Kleiner Perkins Has Best Record on Women, Testifies Harvard Professor" March 19, 2015

Sources for middle initial "K"
Not sure where to put these so:
 * http://www.nytimes.com/2011/02/26/nyregion/26dakota.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0 "Despite becoming president, Mr. Fletcher began to spend more of his time in California, with Ellen K. Pao, a Bay Area venture capitalist he met at a conference and married in 2007."
 * http://www.aspeninstitute.org/leadership-programs/henry-crown-fellowship-program/lists-fellows/2007-class "Ellen K. Pao, Senior Vice President, Strategic Partnerships and Business Development, reddit, Inc., San Francisco, CA."
 * http://www.martindale.com/Ellen-K-Pao/651640-lawyer.htm "Ellen K. Pao Lawyer Profile"
 * http://www.avvo.com/attorneys/07040-nj-ellen-pao-931384.html "Ellen K. Pao" 12.180.133.18 (talk) 20:42, 16 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Please see Help:Footnotes User:Fred Bauder Talk 22:29, 16 March 2015 (UTC)

Does she have a Chinese name?
My guess is she also has a Chinese name with Chinese characters. If so it should be in the artivle. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.195.108.189 (talk) 01:26, 20 March 2015 (UTC)


 * Yes, it would be nice to have her Chinese name. I tried to search for her using the five names of Chinese newspapers mentioned in the USAtoday article, but nothing turned up on ggogle. Just wondering if there are Chinese editors who can help? Ottawahitech (talk) 01:42, 20 March 2015 (UTC)
 * If she does, and it is notable, it will be published in a reliable source; that is how we define notability. Otherwise, please let it go; she is an American. User:Fred Bauder Talk 10:13, 20 March 2015 (UTC)
 * She used some name during her business trips to China, What is that? User:Fred Bauder Talk 10:14, 20 March 2015 (UTC)

More views on Buddy's than on Ellen's wiki-page?
Just an interesting tidbit:

Page view statistics shows 12,000 wiki-views for Ellen Pao's page on March 17, 2015, and more than double that  for husband's page. Ottawahitech (talk) 22:56, 21 March 2015 (UTC)

Week four Re/code bloggers
Liz Gannes and Nellie Bowles of Re/code:
 * http://recode.net/tag/pao-trial/
 * "Juliet de Baubigny Says She Never Felt Discriminated Against at Kleiner Perkins" March 20, 2015
 * "Live: Closing Arguments in Ellen Pao’s Gender Discrimination Case Against Kleiner Perkins" March 25, 2015
 * "Live: Day Two of the Ellen Pao v. Kleiner Perkins Case Summations" March 25, 2015
 * "Ellen Pao’s Case Ends on an Impassioned Plea for Women in Tech" March 25, 2015
 * "FAQ: What Happens Now in the Ellen Pao/Kleiner Perkins Trial?" March 26, 2015
 * "Live: The Pao v. Kleiner Perkins Verdict March 27, 2015
 * "What Is Silicon Valley’s Problem With Gender?" By Donna Dubinsky, CEO, Board Chair and Co-Founder, Numenta March 27, 2015

Aileen Lee Nominated for deletion
The wiki-article about Aileen Lee, the KPCB partner who was one of the witnesses at the Ellen Pao gender discrimination trial, and one who  in 2006 founded a company that went public in 2013 and is now traded on the NASDAQ stock exchange, has been nominated for deletion : "...about a businesswomen who lacks any real n notability. No significant award or achievements" Ottawahitech (talk) 00:15, 24 March 2015 (UTC)

Moving the gender discrimination lawsuit material into its own article?
The section about the lawsuit now far exceeds the rest of this page by size. Should it be moved to its own article? Ottawahitech (talk) 03:48, 25 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Please wait at least until the trial court verdict. My feeling is that this is a fizzle, but time will tell if it is of historical importance. User:Fred Bauder Talk 16:39, 25 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Now the case is over, I strongly agree that most of this content should be either split out into a separate article, or removed entirely. It's clearly far too much information about one trial for a biography of Ellen Pao. The question is whether a separate article on the lawsuit would pass the notability test; I'm not sure it would, so perhaps the content should just be removed outright. Robofish (talk) 00:53, 28 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Remove the information completely? Are you jesting? Ottawahitech (talk) 01:01, 28 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Yeah, that may be a bit excessive. Instead I've been bold and split out the lawsuit content into Ellen Pao gender discrimination lawsuit. Anyone who wants to take that article to AFD can do so. Robofish (talk) 01:04, 28 March 2015 (UTC)

Verdict is in?
http://recode.net/2015/03/27/the-pao-v-kleiner-perkins-verdict-is-in/

http://www.cnet.com/uk/news/ellen-pao-jury-reaches-verdict/ Ottawahitech (talk) 20:17, 27 March 2015 (UTC)

Using New York Times as a reference
It appears that the New York Times is providing access to their articles if you find them via google, but not if you click a link through Wikipedia (they ask for subscription). Am I right? Ottawahitech (talk) 00:13, 28 March 2015 (UTC)


 * If you can't view a New York Times article, clear your cookies and history and try again. They let you see something like 10 articles per month without paying so I'm assuming you've clicked on more than 10 articles this month. http://observer.com/2015/01/heres-how-to-get-around-the-paywalls-of-the-new-york-times-wall-street-journal-and-more/ http://www.labnol.org/internet/nyt-paywall/18992/ 12.180.133.18 (talk) 00:31, 28 March 2015 (UTC)

Exploitation
See https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Pao_v._Kleiner_Perkins&diff=654028298&oldid=654018681 If there are sources which show exploitation of this issue with respect to legal actions without merit, please advance them. Please do not remove links to relevant articles, however. User:Fred Bauder Talk 12:44, 29 March 2015 (UTC)
 * The objective abilities of Ellen Pao and the good-faith efforts of Kleiner Perkins played major roles in this case, as they should have, nevertheless, it is unlikely that no plaintiff could prevail. User:Fred Bauder Talk 12:49, 29 March 2015 (UTC)

Follow up

 * "Ellen Pao and the Enduring Illusion of Equality" Susan G. Bluer, Partner, Bluer & Bluer LLP April 3, 2015 Re/code
 * “If you feel you have been discriminated against, I believe you, but feeling discrimination and proving discrimination are two different things.”
 * "good cases most often settle and with able counsel, they settle early with more defense dollars going to the wronged employee than to the employer’s attorneys." User:Fred Bauder Talk 08:11, 7 April 2015 (UTC)
 * "Pao Speaks on Workplace Sexism, but Not Trial: Threading the Needle Is Hard" Liz Gannes April 5, 2015 Re/code User:Fred Bauder Talk 08:35, 7 April 2015 (UTC)

NPOV
I have removed Template:Npov as it seems unjustified. Please discuss. User:Fred Bauder Talk 17:50, 7 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Source of https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Pao_v._Kleiner_Perkins&diff=next&oldid=655359116 is in Pao v. Kleiner Perkins. User:Fred Bauder Talk 17:53, 7 April 2015 (UTC)

Fred, your edits are the problem. They're clearly biased in Ms. Pao's favor. Outlandish claims such as how her case "resulted in major advances in consciousness of gender discrimination" are not supported by reliable sources. Please refrain from engaging in issue advocacy on Wikipedia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 166.170.0.86 (talk) 14:02, 9 April 2015 (UTC)
 * I have tried to keep my personal perspective out of the editing. It is shared by the jury, which found the facts to not support the law of the case. Please review the sources cited in the section I have cited above. They do support the language in the lede which you keep removing. I cannot access her interview by The Wall Street Journal, but you may be able to. User:Fred Bauder Talk 15:18, 9 April 2015 (UTC)
 * What reliable source reports the claim that I just quoted? The best I could find in your reference was an article quoting the primary source opinion of an ally of Ms. Pao. That does not constitute a reliable, encyclopedic source. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 166.170.0.86 (talk) 17:13, 9 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Which "ally" is that? User:Fred Bauder Talk 22:05, 9 April 2015 (UTC)

@166.170.0.86, I don't see where you are coming from. Actually I used to think that Fred's edits were biased, but in the other direction (I don't believe so anymore). Ottawahitech (talk) 04:54, 16 April 2015 (UTC)

Significance
Despite the loss in this particular case, Pao v. Kleiner Perkins focused attention on gender discrimination issues in the venture capital and the technical industry in Silicon Valley and elsewhere. Two additional cases, Chia Hong v. Facebook, and one against Twitter, were filed. It is anticipated that firms in the venture capital and technology industries will pay much more attention to gender issues in the future and that the case is a landmark case that has focused attention on the issues of gender discrimination and sexism in the venture capital and technology industries.

This material seems NPOV to me. User:Fred Bauder Talk 22:03, 9 April 2015 (UTC)


 * The third citation is actually a quote from an ally of the accuser, not a neutral source. It's also couched in contingent terms, unlike the claim it is "supporting". The second citation is also of this sort. The first citation, meanwhile, simply does not support the claim. The significance of Ms. Pao's suit as a cultural event is deeply questionable. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 166.170.0.45 (talk) 21:00, 10 April 2015 (UTC)

Let's look at your first claim as an example. You say, "it is anticipated that...", but never say who is anticipating! If we to word this statement properly, citing the source of the anticipation as Freada Kapor Klein, a self-described "organizational culture and diversity activist", then the neutrality problem hiding behind the passive voice becomes more apparent. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 166.170.0.45 (talk) 21:14, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Makes sense. I rather doubt she has ever been hired as an expert witness by a defendant. User:Fred Bauder Talk 14:36, 13 April 2015 (UTC)

Ajit Nazre
I have just reverted the removal of the link to Ajit Nazre from the article. It is not clear to me why this link was removed from the article.Anyone? Ottawahitech (talk) 12:38, 4 August 2015 (UTC)