Talk:Paperless office/Archive 1

General Overview of the Paperless Office
I have just been reading the article regarding the paperless office

This is the first time I have written a talk page so if I make any mistakes please forgive me and I would love you to correct me so I can keep within the guideline of Wiki

The general thought of the article is that we must remember that the Paperless Office is a concept meaning that it will always endeavour to be improved as technology will grow the concept will grow with the technology, therefore a never ending situation.

The reason why I have pointed this out is that the page as one of the members has already noticed is becoming too informative with technology i.e. technology that we assume is connected to the paperless office, this not necessary always the case. What I think is paperless office does not mean that the other person will think the same.

This article is very open to individual opinions, so my suggestion if I may is to keep the article page to the bare minimum.


 * 1) Introduction
 * 2) History
 * 3) Adapting in the early years of the concept
 * 4) What the Paperless office is in to day’s society

(General thought)

And that is it

All the other items like scanners, pdf’s, data storage, file requirements, software systems etc etc etc, to be placed and boxed with a link to that particular area but with a explanation note stating this.

I do not state to be an expert on this that but I have spent a lot of time with The University of Bradford into this subject.

Martinpetersmith (talk) 19:28, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

Changing the format of external links on the page
I caame across this page recently and felt it required quite bit of cleaning up. I am attempting to improve the readability of the page and would like to know if it is a good idea to change the format of the External Links like "[1] - video about how scanning fits in to a paperless office ". It would improve the look and the readability of the page... IMHO.

AdityaTandon (talk) 12:35, 22 October 2008 (UTC) Aditya

This article needs modernisation
This is an area I feel I have a reasonable amount of expertise, and I feel the article is outdated somewhat by people who have never had the technical expertise to pull the paperless concept off.

The paperless office is a working concept being practised today. The definition in the current article is being taken literally too far. It makes it seem that a paperless office is impossible or impractical, when it is very practical and very possible.

Of course an office can't be totally paperless, simply because the world still uses paper and will always use paper. Anyone who has a paperless office running knows they need to have a interface with the paperworld. But that's where the distinction is, in particular how the paper is handled when it enters the paperless office.

The paperless office is more a method/philosophy, that is starting to be used practically in everyday modern offices today. The best way distinguish IMHO is, a paperless vs. a non paperless is attitude to filing information.
 * Paperless office
 * Philosophy to store information in a digital medium (like a hard disk or memory stick) as opposed to,


 * Non Paperless office
 * Philosophy to store information in mixed mediums (like paper and digital).

The other key element of the paperless office is convergence. Where all mediums converge to the one medium. Mediums as in say records, LP's, videos, sounds tapes etc.

The key driving elements to going paperless are;
 * Cost saving
 * Information retrieval speed
 * Portability of information

The article could include heading "How-To manage paper entering the paperless office", "Copyright issues", "Scanning books", "Scanning at high speed", indexing methods, "Archieving issues", etc., "Following up issues"

So before I even attempt to edit the main article, I would like to discuss meanings and definitions etc because I know some editors will think its nonsence and dimiss what I have to say as rubbish.

--Joewski 01:45, 26 October 2006 (UTC)


 * Agreed.. and regarding the statement below, the whole article seems like an advertisement for those who fancy that the 'paperless office' is pure myth. I say, go ahead and make your changes. Even without rigorous definitions, your comments were more helpful to me than the original article. --170.173.0.1 21:25, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

With the above thought process all the articles would seem an advertisement. 195.189.142.60 (talk) 05:50, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

Advertisement?
The link to Adjamian Affiliated appears to be an advertisement. Should it be deleted?


 * Yes, it should be deleted. Latha Padmanabhan (talk) 12:09, 4 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Yes, it should be deleted. Sanjiv swarup (talk) 13:27, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

First prediction
"The prediction of the paperless office was initially made in an article at Business Week in 1975." This is not true. It may have been the first use of the term "paperless office" but the prediction was made some years earlier.

"An Administrative Management editorial in January 1970 [...]: 'By the end of the 1970s,' it suggested, 'we should have climbed out of the Gutenburg rut. Paper—memos, letters and other business forms—will have been replaced to a large extent by electronic communications devices.'" (Haigh, Thomas. Remembering the office of the future. IEEE Annals of the History of Computing. Washington: Oct-Dec 2006. Vol. 28, Iss. 4; p. 6.) Nurg 09:12, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

Reports of successful paperless implimentation.
I've started this heading to gather evidence on independent successful implementation.


 * good idea Sanjiv swarup (talk) 13:24, 22 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Reference to ADA County Sherff's-Boise statement --Joewski 02:02, 9 August 2007 (UTC)


 * irrelevant example !! Sanjiv swarup (talk) 13:26, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

This article needs a rewrite or some additional information about being paperless
This article does not explain in detail about the scope of paperless office, can someone wikify this page, as a initiative i have added few external links that should help, any comments!! Edeskonline (talk) 13:49, 19 June 2008 (UTC)


 * what about mentioing about safehouse paperless solutions providers

Sanjiv swarup (talk) 02:30, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

Multifunction Printers
Multifunction Printers/Peripherals are conspicuously absent from the list of technologies that could be used by office workers for moving towards a paperless office.The scanning capabilities of an MFP are frequently used to convert paper documents into digital documents as these documents enter an organization. --BillBrikiatis (talk) 01:00, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

Lists/trivia and Introduction and Title
I broke the lead paragraph into an introduction - it may need further formatting but the article had no intro, this seemed like a fundamental wikifying adjustment.

I also tagged the last two sections as lists that can be made into prose - i'm giving it a pass, but i'm not a subject matter expert and am having issues with some of the specifics. It seems that these two sections should be combined and written in simple prose.

Also should the title not read Paperless Office? With the second word capitalized as well? Mrchhre (talk) 18:08, 21 January 2010 (UTC)

Nothing about Xerox' 'Office of the Future'...
It surprises me that nothing is mentioned about the "office of the future" developed by Xerox researchers at Palo Alto Research Center. If I remember correctly, they where the first to introduce ideas as: e-mail, graphical user interface, mouse etc.. Which are all neccessary ingredients for a paperless office. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.139.114.115 (talk) 18:41, 14 March 2010 (UTC)

"With the passage of recent laws..."
These "laws" are given no context. In what country were these laws passed? America? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 163.189.7.40 (talk) 23:04, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

Attention from subject matter expert
In response to the tag requesting input from an expert, I have created Paperless society, which is a superset of Paperless office.

See Talk:Paperless society

If what I have added is sufficient, please remove the tag

Escientist (talk) 02:06, 14 April 2011 (UTC)

Cost of e-books
From the main article: "eBooks are often free or low cost compared to hard-copy books."

What's the authority or citation for this statement? There are free or cheap ebooks... but there are free or cheap paper books too. I don't buy ebooks but people who do seem to complain a lot that they often cost about the same or even more than the same title in print. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.243.88.136 (talk) 20:24, 7 July 2012 (UTC)

Difficulties in adopting the paperless office
The last paragraph of this section seems to be contradictory to its own first sentence and describes reasons why adopting a paperless office is not difficult, rather than difficulties in adopting the paperless office. It reads like somebody has reworded a list of difficulties in order to make the point that they are not really difficulties. The editor who has done this may have a valid argument, but this content no longer belongs in a section called 'Difficulties in adopting the paperless office' or in a paragraph beginning "Another difficulty in adopting the paperless office is the human factor". I'm therefore reworking this paragraph Garemoko (talk) 14:12, 7 August 2012 (UTC)