Talk:Paramore/Archive 3

Paramore being labeled as "Christian"
Paramore recently had an interview posted in CCM magazine. Does this make them "Christian"? Is there anyway to try and confirm this or possibly add a section to the page? Alec Marshall 7:43 Central Time 1-17-10

Paramore is alternative
I know people are arguing this, and its true. Why are people putting them as emo when thats a stereotype? Is wikipedia retarded or something? Sorry but some people need to know their stuff.--NicoX448 (talk) 19:05, 31 August 2009 (UTC) Emorocker777 (talk • contribs)
 * Paramore THEMSELVES stated they were emo, as did SEVERAL reliable sources, so you're trying to tell me you know more than professional music reviewers? Emo IS a type of music and Paramore, Panic! at the Disco, and Fall Out Boy are all emo bands.

Paramore's genre
on paramores myspace they label themselves as alternative / pop. so shouldnt we get rid of all this emo shit and just put them as pop and alternative?

Let's tone down on the cussing, please. people of all ages are on here reading it. Type Wisely! all i got to say is that. -dog lvr12 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dog lvr 12 (talk • contribs) 00:52, 29 November 2009 (UTC)

PARAMORE IS ALTERNATIVE!
 * If I label myself as a catholic priest it doesn't make me a member of the clergy. The way things are written on Wikipedia is based on what third party, reliable sources say about the band, not what the band says about itself. Since third-party sources describe it as emo, we go with emo. Ironholds (talk) 22:03, 20 August 2009 (UTC)

Don't you think the current genres are a little much? I understand that sources call them all of those genres but maybe we can condense it to Alternative Rock, Pop Punk (seeing as pop rock and powerpop kinda go hand in hand here), and EMO, these are all sourced and maybe just put in the article that sources call them Pop rock and Powerpop? Just an idea. Terminus777 (talk) 22:26, 1 November 2009 (UTC)

I agree, I reverted the change.T.tyrael (talk) 14:59, 2 November 2009 (UTC)

Emo
paramore is pop have you not heard decode? its pop man —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.47.84.143 (talk) 14:38, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

So, everyone agrees Paramore isn't emo. Yeah, true. But they aren't alternative. Maybe alternative pop, but I want to get things straight that Paramore have ABSOLUTELY NO

-> Emo -> Punk -> Rock -> Rap —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.24.100.194 (talk) 17:40, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

Influences. OK? ELLOS NO SON EMOS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.244.131.167 (talk) 01:57, 16 February 2010 (UTC)

I understand that everyone cares about the genre but as long as they keep producing great music (I love paramore lol) then their genre shouldn't be the most important thing!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by MaxRideObsessed (talk • contribs) 16:04, 28 March 2010 (UTC)

Paramore is not emo.
They are not an emo band the are pop punk and thats the end of it —Preceding unsigned comment added by Simonrock (talk • contribs) 17:48, 8 September 2009 (UTC)

Paramore is awsome and they will always be the best. They have won so many awards that it isn't funny. 9 awards have been won by them. They are alternative rock, too! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 199.246.2.10 (talk) 21:44, 25 November 2009 (UTC)

They are not alternative, or emo. Emo is an old type of metal that died out years ago, it no longer exists, because idiots like these wreck it, turning emo into pop. Not even pop punk. I mean, can you see any similarities between Sex Pistols and Paramore? No. I agree with the person that wrote this:

Emo is a faster, more agresive style of punk that broke off in the 80's and died in the 90's. The words were not sung clearly and the music's intention was emotion over melody. Just because the members have emo influences (SDRE and Mineral), they are not emo. Can you honestly say their is any "punk" influence in Paramore? The sources imply Panic! At the Disco and Fall Out Boy are emo (Which shows a horrible misunderstanding of the misinterpreted genre, emotional-hardcore) and are all articles by other people who have no idea what emo really is. Please change it. This band does not fall in with CaP'n Jazz and Rites of Spring. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.222.157.208 (talk) 05:45, 26 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Hi, and welcome to Wikipedia. We cite genres that can be verified by reliable sources, and several reliable sources define this band as emo. Please see our no original research policy. My point is, your opinion (or any editors for that matter) is irrelevant. Landon1980 (talk) 05:58, 26 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Apparently NME, the NY Times and Rolling Stone don't know about music now. --neon white talk 10:03, 26 March 2009 (UTC)


 * They don't. Especially music that isn't commercial or mainstream (for example: emo).Supahshadow (talk) 21:55, 7 March 2010 (UTC)

I am sure paramore aren't emo —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.97.250.202 (talk) 09:10, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

If the author of the article doesn't have knowledge of the 80's punk sub-subgenre, then probably not. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.222.129.85 (talk) 22:46, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

OK, OK, OK, OK...

They are not alternative rock, maybe alternative pop, yes. But you're pathetic. Once you are about 17, 18, you will realise that they're not. Look, I'm an 11 year-old girl, and I've learnt that already. Cerysluvesnirvana (talk) 11:55, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

Paramore genre?
They are definitly not true emo. However, pop is out of the question as well. They are ALTERNATIVE ROCK! They have songs from Pop Rock, Ska Rock, Punk Rock, Emo, and a lot of genres. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dp2007 (talk • contribs) 16:26, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

Hello, Dp2007, and welcome to Wikipedia. We go by reliable sources on what genres to list, not our own personal opinions. The genre emo has several reliable sources, hence it stays. As far as adding other genres, be sure and cite the addition with a reliable source. Have a good day. Landon1980 (talk) 17:33, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

And where is a reliable source that says they are emo? Listen to their new album... --Dem467 (talk) 12:29, 24 September 2009 (UTC) if u listen to them u wud now its not emo —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.53.97.2 (talk) 02:57, 27 January 2010 (UTC)

ITUNES HAS CLASSED PARAMORE AS ALTERNATIVE-PUNK-ROCK, ALTERNATIVE-ROCK, AND ROCK. NO EMO, THAT DOESNT EXIST, AND THEY ARE NOT POP. ITUNES IS PRETTY MUCH THE DECISIVE SOURCE.--WhereTheLinesOverlapXX (talk) 11:18, 16 February 2010 (UTC)

One source does not override another. Sources say emo, we go with emo. You can't just say "I disagree so i'm going to do whatever the hell i want to the page." We have multiple sources saying POP PUNK, not pop, and EMO. So well you really need to get over being mad. Terminus777 (talk) 21:19, 17 February 2010 (UTC)

Im sorry, i didnt mean to sound mad, i didnt realise id typed in caps. Can i see the source that says they're emo...i wont change it again, but id like to see anyway. --WhereTheLinesOverlapXX (talk) 08:27, 18 February 2010 (UTC)

Alright that's fine. Near the bottom of the page, Musical Style, it says they are commonly classified as Emo and Pop punk with just a few of many references, and even a quote or two saying so. I wasn't trying to be rude, it's just for whatever reason people want to do what they want to this article, without any facts to it." Terminus777 (talk) 04:23, 19 February 2010 (UTC)

Is there no way to increase the protection from Semi? --WhereTheLinesOverlapXX (talk) 08:35, 19 February 2010 (UTC)

There most likely is, and personally i think it should happen ASAP. It's kind of idiotic that people think their opinion overrides sources. Terminus777 (talk) 04:04, 23 February 2010 (UTC)

Paramore is POP ROCK not emo. "emo" does not even exist!
OK, Paramore aren't alternative rock. You are out of your mind. Really. Why can't little girls listening to childish rock grow up? Look, I'm an 11 year-old girl, and I love Nirvana, Foo Fighters etc... not this sort of rubbish. It's NOT alternative rock. NOT!!!!! It's pop, pop rock or pop punk on a good day. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cerysluvesnirvana (talk • contribs) 11:47, 31 December 2009 (UTC) Nirvana and Foo Fighters are shit-rock, these aren't much better but hey.

Band members
According to the official website, the lineup is as follows:- According to their myspace page, it's... Where are the reliable sources stating that Taylor York is a member? If sources can't be provided, the material can't be added to the article. See our Verifiability policy for more on this. S HEFFIELD S TEEL TALK 21:06, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Vocals: Hayley
 * Bass: Jeremy
 * Guitar: Josh
 * Drums: Zac
 * Zac: drums
 * Hayley: vocals
 * Josh: guitar
 * Jeremy: bass
 * Ylaizah: guitar —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.9.199.93 (talk) 19:47, 4 March 2010 (UTC)
 * This is the only source I know of covering the issue. It says, Shortly before the release of RIOT!, it was announced that Hunter Lamb would be leaving the band to spend time with his fiancée and would be temporarily replaced by Taylor York.  S HEFFIELD S TEEL TALK 21:40, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
 * I'd only list him only as a temporary touring member if he hasnt recorded with them. --neon white talk 15:41, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Agreed. Wikiwikikid (talk) 15:03, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

Taken from Paramore Fan Club Site

EVERYONE!!!! The members of Paramore have a special announcement to make:

We recognize the fact that it’s way overdue. Oh well. Today is the day. The four of us (Hayley, Zac, Josh and Jeremy) are proud to announce that Taylor York, a touring member of Paramore for over 2 years, is now an official member of the band!

In case you don’t know… and you probably don’t… Taylor has been around since the very early days of Paramore. Perhaps even before we began. He actually helped write some of our “fan-favorite” songs such as “Conspiracy” off our debut record, All We Know Is Falling and “That’s What You Get” from RIOT! So as you can see, there really isn’t anyone else we could find who would fit in quite the same.

So, without further ado, we give you… the newest and final addition to Paramore:

TAYLOR BENJAMIN YORK :l

Hope this clear up that taylor is official!!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 116.197.252.196 (talk) 04:08, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

Paramore in video games
Most of this section that was recently addedis unreferenced. The only "news" source that I could find for the song "Pressure" being in Sims 2 was here. I'm not sure if this source will pass the Wikipedia muster though. Thoughts/opinions/other sources?

The rest that states "'Misery Business' is also featured in Saint's Row 2, and the soundtrack for EA Sports NHL 08. The music video for 'Decode', along with the Twilight film trailer, was shown in the North American Home Theater of PlayStation Home from December 11, 2008 to December 18, 2008. The song 'Born For This' was featured in the game'We Cheer' on Nintendo Wii." needs to be sourced as well. Wikiwikikid (talk) 21:37, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

"To Be Announced" Album
People keep adding information about a supposed forthcoming album, one even gave a specific date. The only reference I could find for their album coming out on that date is a Paramore Fansite article that claims to be a yet to be published Rolling Stones article. This probably is not an appropriate source though. Also, while I did not (initially) remove the TBA (2009) album, the Wikipedia automatic filter for WP:CRYSTAL popped up a warning saying not to list To Be Announced albums under the albums as wikipedia is not a crystal ball. I guess that makes sense, as it's possible that something could come up to delay or even cancel the release. I don't think it would be problematic to under the 2008-Present section saying that they are "planning" to release an album in 2009 (or whenever) as long as it is properly cited. Opinions? Wikiwikikid (talk) 16:17, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
 * You can add whatever you want about the upcoming album as long as it is cited with a reliable source, just make sure no one puts TBA. Landon1980 (talk) 02:53, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
 * I agree, the TBA thing is what I've been fighting against. Well, that and the lack of proper citation. Thanks for your input. Wikiwikikid (talk) 13:39, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
 * I put it back up except with sources this time. I don't know how else to list it other than how I did. The album is finished, has been mixed, and two of the new songs have even been played live already. They as of now still don't have a title for it, but despite that I feel it should be listed. Once they give it a title I'll put it in. Captain.corporate 20:37, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
 * It doesn't matter how you "feel"... Try adding a To Be Announced album and you'llb e given the warning automatically... Read WP:CRYSTAL... Wikipedia is not a crystal ball.  The discography, by definition, is a list of the released albums attributed to a group.  The forthcoming album is included in the text of the article (where it is already cited and can remain), but it doesn't belong in discography.  Sorry... Wikiwikikid (talk) 20:41, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
 * It's not a "to be announced" album, its a near finished album with no name and a set release date. Theres a huge difference. Are you even a real fan? Do read any articles or the live journal? Captain.corporate 20:58, 27 May 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Captain.corporate (talk • contribs)
 * Think about your own statement... the name of the album has not been announced. Further, we know when they PLAN to release it, but we cannot accept this as fact.  Again, read WP:CRYSTAL.  Me being a fan is irrelevant.  I am an unbiased editor, which IS relevant. In fact, for neutral point of view (see WP:NPOV), it's probably best that someone who is NOT an avid fan edit.  To be clear, I do not read their live journal, as this isn't usually going to be an acceptable source for wikipedia.  I do, however, read many music (specifically Christian music) news articles. Wikiwikikid (talk) 13:14, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

(OD) Echoing Wikiwikikid, please wait until the name of the album is released. Doing anything other than that is not very encyclopedic. Landon1980 (talk) 05:09, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

paramore is ALTERNATIVE
ok paramore is definently alternative not this crap about pop. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.90.15.5 (talk) 23:36, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
 * it doesn't matter what you think. it matters what the sources say... Wikiwikikid (talk) 02:55, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

Third album
Please do not speculate about possible titles for the third album based on internet rumours and blogs. This is an encyclopedia not a rumour site. We only accept reliable sources for such info. --neon white talk 14:26, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Neon, good catch. I forgot to actually look at the references provided on those.  Also, the album is not in discography until it is released (not direceted at you Neon).  Wikiwikikid (talk) 14:34, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Just so you know there have been many reliable sources that have announced paramore's new album like http://www.spin.com/articles/paramore-announce-more-album-details and http://www.paramore.net/postDetails/2009/06/26/brand-new-eyes/ and http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/news/upcoming_releases/paramore_brand_new_eyes_details.html, so now we know that the so called vandalism is the truth, it just wasn't sourced. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nellygirl13 (talk • contribs)
 * Right. The announcement on paramore.net makes this official as far as I'm concerned.  S HEFFIELD S TEEL TALK 20:23, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
 * the vandalism claims are still true for people intentionally putting the album under discography. the album is not in the discography until it is officially released.  in fact, wikipedia has a filter built in so that if you TRY to put "TBA" as an album in discography it warns you not to.  Obviously, the filter is not smart enough to know if an actual named album has been released yet, but this is in violation of WP:CRYSTAL. Wikiwikikid (talk) 04:55, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Announcements in blogs months before a release has to be treated carefully, album titles have been known to change multiple times in the weeks leading up to offical statements, it could change considerably in 3 months. We should always wait for an official announced by the label. --neon white talk 23:30, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

Paramore is Punk/Rock they are not pop and they are moste definitely not emo, they're awesom. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.187.246.248 (talk) 12:02, 23 July 2009 (UTC)

hayley williams personal relationships.
since i am not authorized to edit any Paramore articles because they are locked i hope to catch someones attention who does have the authorization, so they can correct the poor and inaccurate information about Hayley Williams personal life.

it has been confirmed by both Hayley Williams herself and Chad Gilbert of New Found Glory that they are in a romantic relationship. chad has come out and said it in interviews, and hayley is always posting things about him on her personal twitter, calling him her bf. anyone with half a brain knows that means boyfriend. SOURCES:

in hayleys personal section, it says she is friends with the Cyrus family. when asked about how she felt about Miley Cyrus and her fame in an interview she actually said that she didnt know Miley too well and is actually friends with her sister Brandi Cyrus SOURCES:

there has obviously been the rummor that hayley was also romantically linked to fellow band mate Josh Farro, a picture is worth a thousand words and a picture of them kissing has been leaked onto the net, what more proof do you need? SOURCES: very easy to find on the net, look for it.

she has also confirmed numorous times that she does not plan on breaking away from the band to persue a solo carrer. SOURCES:

she also puts a lot of focus on the fact that paramore is a band, not just herself. she also does not like being compared, or 'comparamored' to other female fronted bands, or solo artists. such as avril lavigne demi lavato gwen stafani <---when she went off to be a solo artist, many thought she would do the same hey monday no doubt versaemerge and much more. SOURCES: —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.134.101.22 (talk) 21:08, 30 July 2009 (UTC)


 * Okay, a few things, the Hayley/Chad thing, has already been discussed, and it was decided (a little while ago) that it will not be added until someone brings a real and reliable source. As for the Cyrus family thing, well, even if she isn't friends with Miley, she is still friends with her sister. The section never said she was friends with Miley, just that she was friends with the family. As for the Josh Farro thing, I don't think a picture that was "leaked" onto the internet is the best source to follow, simply because pictures can be fake and Wikipedia is not for internet rumors, as far as I can tell they've never dated. Until she (or one of the other band members) state out right that they were involved I don't think it should be added. Also, I don't see how her not wanted to be compared to other solo artist is relavent. But if anyone else has any thoughts on this feel free to bring them up. Emo777 (talk) 09:53, 31 July 2009 (UTC)

Okay(: Well as far as im concerned with the relationship between them, and the two links i provided. the first one was an interview with Chad himself, and the second is Hayleys personal twitter (confermation on their offical myspace and a blog on her offical live journal page) who is more reliable source then those people themselves. their relationship is real, they have both come out about it. they just like to keep it low key, witch again can be found in interviews (with both chad and hayley- and again both reliable sources). and as for the miley cyrus thing, your right. i just thought it would be more accurate to say shes friends with mileys older sister, and thats how she meet them. i supose your right, they both denied the relationship so i guess it just shouldne be messed around with- regardless of the relationship being real or just some made up story. hahahahahha yeah your so right about the "comparimoring" and its relevance(if thats even a word). thanks your writing back to me, and for not being rood while correcting me.
 * Don't mention it, I would recommend bring up the relationship on the Hayley Williams talk page. But, i'll try and get it done as soon as possible. Thanks again for the sources. Emo777 (talk) 14:45, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

Please direct your attention to the October 2009 issue of Alternative Press. In the interview, it confirms that Hayley and josh were dating until 2007 when they decided they didnt want it to interfere with their music. It also states that Hayley is now dating Chad from New Found Glory. Conflict between Hayley and Josh about Hayley dating chad caused them to cancel their remaining shows of their tour in early 2008 --Dem467 (talk) 12:36, 24 September 2009 (UTC)

Links to the albums.
Since this article is locked I can't edit it so I'm posting this to catch the eye of someone who can. I suggest that there be links to the individual album pages under the heading. An example of this can be found here: [] Thanks.--68.34.107.140 (talk) 05:54, 6 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Done!:) Emo777 (talk) 14:36, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

Hayley Photo
Lets get a better photo —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nightwyrex (talk • contribs) 15:03, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

Homonym / homophone
The article states "Once the group learned the meaning of the homonym paramour ("secret lover"), they decided to adopt the name, using the Paramore spelling."

Actually, Paramore and paramour are homophones, not homonyms. Homophones are words that sound the same, but are spelled (or mean) differently. Homonyms are words that are spelled the same, but have different meanings.

This should be corrected by someone with access to the article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Verimius (talk • contribs) 21:44, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

other band members of Paramore?
why is it that only Hayley Williams has her own page? dont get me wrong i admire and respect her very much; but Paramore is more than just Hayley. I think Josh Farro, Jeremy Davis, Zac Farro, and Taylor York are all valid members of Paramore that work very hard and should get some type of recognition. and since im not a member of wiki i cant add new pages, or even edit the paramore article so im hoping someone does something about this because the other band members are also very much a part of Paramore.
 * People have to pass certain guidelines to have articles - for musicians, these are found at WP:COMPOSER. Alternately they can pass the standard requirements found at WP:BIO. Hayley Williams passes these where the other band members don't because she's been independently covered by the media, won several awards (admittedly for stupid things like Sexiest Female Musician) and has done work with other bands. It doesn't mean her contribution to Paramore is more than that of the other band members, just that the media pay more attention to her, probably just because she's hot and female. Ironholds (talk) 23:47, 14 August 2009 (UTC)
 * I guess thats true, although i am very dissapointed that just because the media decides to pay more attention to Hayley that sometimes people just decide to disregard the other members of the band. Josh also has a huge part in it, he helps out with the lyrics and composition of the music (so i have heard). But i supose thats never going to be enoupgh for anyone.
 * That's how wikipedia works - material needs to be verifiable to be included. The entire reason notability guidelines are based on available sources is so we can create a verifiable article about something/someone based on ironclad sources. If nobody mentions or talks about anyone else in enough detail to write an article, not only does it not pass WP:BIO but we can't reaaaally even write an article on the person. Something to take up with the media, not us. Ironholds (talk) 22:52, 15 August 2009 (UTC)

List of Paramore Songs
I have made a table of paramore songs (not completed) here - List of Paramore songs. can someone alow me to edit the Paramore page so that i can put the link on here? Parafan 2 (talk) 06:56, 22 August 2009 (UTC)

err sorry but alot of that list is incorrect:

-Adore, Another Day, Hello Hello, Just Like Me, & My Number 1 are not paramore, they're songs Hayley recorded pre-paramore, by herself (she said so in a lj comment)

-also Throwing Punches has never been released by paramore (not even as a demo), it leaked, and the band expressed wishes for fans not to download/listen/distribute it (also said in a lj comment) so i think you should remove it :) (the same is with Swim In Silence)

-Its not Circle, it's This Circle (this is confirmed on the bands lj) also This Circle was released as part of the FBR Winter Sampler '06, it's a demo

-Its not Let This Go, its Never Let This Go (this was the songs title on the tracklisting on the back of all we know is falling)

-Decode is not on the US edition of brand new eyes, its only on the international/EU/UK versions

-Temporary was a demo paramore released on Riot (FBR Webstore version)

-Rewind was also a demo released on Riot (Best Buy/iTunes UK version)

-Sunday Bloody Sunday was released on some versions of Misery Business (single)

-Oh Star is actually O Star, (this was what the song's title was on the tracklisting on the back of The Summer Tic EP), and you have "Emergencysingle" (without the space, and it links to the "Emergency" page rather than paramore's Emergency Single page.

-Stop This Song was also released on Riot, (Japanese version & Best Buy/iTunes UK version) and i think you should change it's album to Riot, as Riot was the first to have Stop This Song on it.

-My Hero was a Foo Fighters' cover

-Love's Not a Competition (But I'm Winning) is a Kaiser Chiefs' cover. This was released on BBC Radio 1 Live Lounge Vol. 3

-you missed out Stuck On You (Failure Cover, track 10 on Failure Tribute Album)
 * Ok, i have fixed these mistakes up but didnt find out the track times for both loves not a competition and stuck on you. Parafan 2 (talk) 07:53, 24 August 2009 (UTC)

JOSH and Hayley's relationship rumors CONFIRMED!
this should be added to Hayley's page, and perhaps even the bands page. it explains why they took a break from touring in 2008, the break up rumors(in reference to Paramore), the romance rumors, possible song meanings / inspirations, and maybe even why Hayley felt so alone and depressed.

Josh and Hayley both admitted into being in a relationship with each other [for almost three years] in an interview with Alternative Press magazine (September '09 issue)- currently being sold.

there is also confirmation that Hayley Williams is dating Chad Guilbert of New Found Glory in this article.

THE FOLLOWING PAGES WHERE SCANNED DIRECTLY FROM ALTERNATIVE PRESS MAGAZINE

Pronunciation
"Paramore (pronounced "par-a-more"". Is that really necessary? I assume "paramore" is easy enough for most people with a basic comprehension of English to pronounce, no? Wh ip it !  Now whip it good! 06:08, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

I think it's fine. However, maybe the pronunciation should be phonetic? KellanFabjance (talk) 01:19, 15 September 2009 (UTC)

Hayley Williams AND Chad Gilbert's relationship CONFIRMED!
Thursday, 26 March 2009 is the day underground magazine Rock Sound interviewed Chad Gilbert and got some answers on the question that has been on everybody's mind, are Chad and Hayley dating? Well the answer is YES! But he and Hayley are not yet ready to release all the details and like to keep their relationship low key and out of the public eye. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.134.94.11 (talk) 22:12, 2 September 2009 (UTC)

Emo?
Have we reached editor consensus on this yet? If not, I say we should. Calling them 'emo' is pretty drastic, and I expect may represent a small minority's viewpoint. (Albert Mond (talk) 10:58, 6 September 2009 (UTC))


 * Paramore is definately NOT emo, but that doesn't matter:

if there are reliable sources saying that the band is emo, this article will say they're emo. Rolling Stones and the New York Times are definately reliable. --30daysinAK (talk) 00:02, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

Paramore splitting in 2010?!?
Unless you have proof of this, dont post it on here! I doubt they are going to split. —Preceding unsigned comment added by NicoX448 (talk • contribs) 17:16, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

Why is their third album described as their "third and final" album in the intro to this article? There's no evidence out there that this will be their last album, despite break up rumors. It shouldn't be stated like a fact when it's speculation at best. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Librarychick84 (talk • contribs) 23:41, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

PARAMORE IS SPLITTING UP!!!EHAT THE CRAP!!! I'LL NEVER LIVE!!!!!!

pronunciation
paramore is pronounced PAIR-A-MORE its NOT pronounced PAH-RA-MORE. sum1 edit that

I LOVE PARAMORE FOREVER AND ALWAYS!!! THEY ROCK!!! ( BTW, THEY'RE NOT EMO!)

Pronunciation is a matter of where you come from. I would say that there's no need to offer a pronunciation on the page at all, since it's a fairly basic word with little chance of being extremely incorrectly pronounced. Also, as I said before, people from certain parts of America might say "Pair-a-more", where as people from the UK say it how it reads - "Pah-ra-more". I don't know whether you think the read out makes it sound like "PAR-AR-MORE" (that is, Pah in Oxford English is prounced "PAR"), so maybe you're just confused with the pronunciation of the pronunciation...hence, there's really no need for a pronunciation guide. Regardless, after all that ranting about pronunciation, the other matter is, this is a general discussion page, NOT a fan forum. Save the loving comments for the band's website, please. Finally, if the sources say they're emo, they're emo. If people come to this page looking to see whether they might like the band based on the genre, they're gonna know straight away whether they like them or not by the fact that it says EMO. Sources are sources for a reason. Thanks. FlipsidePro09 (talk) 17:26, 27 February 2010 (UTC)

Confirmation of Hayley, Josh and Chad
Please direct your attention to the October 2009 issue of Alternative Press. In the interview, it confirms that Hayley and josh were dating until 2007 when they decided they didnt want it to interfere with their music. It also states that Hayley is now dating Chad from New Found Glory. Conflict between Hayley and Josh about Hayley dating chad caused them to cancel their remaining shows of their tour in early 2008.

Here is the reliable soruces: (Scans of the actualy article. Number 5 is the one to read)

THE FOLLOWING PAGES WHERE SCANNED DIRECTLY FROM ALTERNATIVE PRESS MAGAZINE

[1] http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_pke6KfyqZB8/SpNZbK_D_pI/AAAAAAAAIZs/uf_qTVLAATQ/s1600-h/3.jpg [2] http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_pke6KfyqZB8/SpNZbjO0_wI/AAAAAAAAIZ0/0e1VNxuxKMA/s1600-h/4.jpg [3] http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_pke6KfyqZB8/SpNZcFWffxI/AAAAAAAAIZ8/IeZljrbK428/s1600-h/5.jpg [4] http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_pke6KfyqZB8/SpNaAwYrT7I/AAAAAAAAIaE/fsepm1YW9i0/s1600-h/6.jpg [5] http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_pke6KfyqZB8/SpNaBAdmSQI/AAAAAAAAIaM/w1zcaNqIO5M/s1600-h/7.jpg [6] http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_pke6KfyqZB8/SpNaBh-hBOI/AAAAAAAAIaU/GhtpZWTGiJ8/s1600-h/8.jpg [7] http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_pke6KfyqZB8/SpNaCCFpEAI/AAAAAAAAIac/4FCrGA8EOUY/s1600-h/9.jpg

About Hayley's Voice.
This information is unnecessary:

"On September 29th, vocalist Hayley Williams had to leave stage fustrated during the encore during the first show of the brand new eyes tour due to hoarseness. On October 2nd, it was announced that a few tour dates have been postponed due to vocalist Hayley Williams becoming infected with laryngitis."

Plus it's heavily worded, and someone needs to check their grammar. Thank you, that is all. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Misery Child (talk • contribs) 01:39, 3 October 2009 (UTC)

Brick By Boring Brick Music Video Confirmed Via Hayley Williams
On her twitter it says that they are shooting the video for "Brick By Boring Brick". I think this should be put up on this page, oh, and does that mean it's already been put out as a single? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Misery Child (talk • contribs) 10:07, 9 October 2009 (UTC)

band members individual wiki pages
Hayley Williams has one thats linked to the main Paramore page Jeremy Davis has one has one thats also linked to the main Paramore page Josh Farro has one but its not directly linked to the Paramore page and im not a registered user so i cant change that. and as far as im concerned nor Zac Farro or Taylor York have official wiki pages.. maybe someone should make them one? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.134.100.121 (talk) 02:55, 12 October 2009 (UTC)

Zac Farro already has a stub page but it still lacks any references.T.tyrael 19:20, 12 October 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by T.tyrael (talk • contribs) None of them really deserve one, but maybe Hayley should, only because of her appearances on other artists' songs. Other members lack importance and talent to deserve a solitary page for themselves. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.11.136.72 (talk) 00:07, 6 May 2010 (UTC)

hyperlink addition needed
editsemiprotected well i noticed that in the first paragraph there is no link to Jeremy's wikipedia page, even though the link exists on the right side under the list of band members names. Really simple fix, and would be helpful for finding his page.

✅   Set Sail   For The   Seven Seas    344° 1' 30" NET    22:56, 13 October 2009 (UTC)

Thank you, but Josh Farro and Zac Farro still don't have any hyperlinks to their pages, if anyone can add hyperlinks for them please? T.tyrael 14:26, 14 October 2009 (UTC)

Blogs can be used as reliable sources?
while checking the references for broken links, I found this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paramore#cite_note-latimes-48 the blogger can modify any information in that review, but I don't delete citations before first gaining consensus. So does it count as a reliable source?--T.tyrael 13:48, 19 October 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by T.tyrael (talk • contribs)

Edit request
The text "ps. she is 5'0 tall" appears to be out of context with the rest of the paragraph. Request to have it removed from the article.

Old sentence: After being asked by the band ps. she is 5'0 tall, Jeremy Davis returned to Paramore after five months apart, replacing Hembree.

Corrected sentence: After being asked by the band, Jeremy Davis returned to Paramore after five months apart, replacing Hembree.
 * Fixed.  D C E dwards 1966  22:06, 12 November 2009 (UTC)

Edit Request
in the introduction brand new eyes should not be described as "the most successful album" by paramore because Riot!, as of now, has sold more copies. It should however be described as "the highest charting album to date". —Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.86.160.62 (talk) 20:15, 19 November 2009 (UTC)


 * Fixed (with a source, just to be sure that that was accurate)
 * --30daysinAK (talk) 20:44, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

The problem with the alt-rock citations
Here's why I removed them:
 * Two of the citations are from sites that rely on user-submitted content. As a result, they do not fulfill Wikipedia's criteria for reliable sources.
 * One citation is from the band's official bio on its website. A band cannot determine its own genre, because they are not an objective source on the matter.
 * The last citation is from a radio station website, which is not an authoritative, reliable source of music journalism.

Per WP:BURDEN, it's up to editors who want to classify the group as alternative rock to find suitable, reliable third party sources that establish the band as such. WesleyDodds (talk) 10:19, 25 November 2009 (UTC)

Taylor York
Just need to change Taylor's age to 20, his birthday just past this December 17th

Done.T.tyrael (talk) 22:46, 17 December 2009 (UTC)

Outdated tenses - Consider Updating
"The tour started on September 29 (the day that Brand New Eyes was released) and ends November 1 in their home town." should be "The tour started on September 29 (the day that Brand New Eyes was released) and ended on November 1, in their home town.".

Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Boonzeet (talk • contribs) 21:14, 21 December 2009 (UTC) ellos no son emos!!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.244.228.98 (talk) 17:53, 11 January 2010 (UTC)

Update request - Josh Farro
Respectfully requesting an update:

This information is coming from the band's official LiveJournal and I would like to dissemenate it before rumors pop up on the page. The livejournal page is here: http://paramoreband.livejournal.com/72946.html

They confirm this is thiers on The Final Riot tour DVD before performing "My Heart".

Josh Farro announced he is sitting out the Pacific Rim tour to stay behind and plan his wedding. He is NOT leaving the band. Justin York (Taylor York's brother) will fill in for him on the tour.

Shyngo (talk) 12:14, 7 February 2010 (UTC)

Carrot
This might be totally irrelevant but its a fun little fact that Hayley's abnormal orange microphone has been labelled 'the carrot'. This is probably useless but could be fun to have in there somewhere. --WhereTheLinesOverlapXX (talk) 19:54, 10 February 2010 (UTC)

Just a Thought
Please change the paramore picture! I think that a close-up picture would suit this article better... one with taylor too. Here is a link to a good paramore picture:    http: //www.musiknyheter.nu/nytt-album-fran-paramore_20090703.html  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.52.123.66 (talk) 23:29, 17 February 2010 (UTC)

I dont think that is a free license image, and the images need to have the right license to be used. The only pictures that can be used will probably be in the Wikipedia Commons. The picture was recently changed and reverted back because it was an unfree image. --WhereTheLinesOverlapXX (talk) 08:25, 18 February 2010 (UTC)

Australian Soundwave
I just think you should edit who they are co-headlining with in Soundwave. Specifically My Chemical Romance since they cancelled their appearance due to a throat injury. —Preceding unsigned comment added by JokerboyJordan (talk • contribs) 00:31, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

Band Members Section
The grammar is being changed and therefore hyperlinks are deleted. With the new wording the hyperlinks cant be entered, you cant change the sentence structure of Hayleys, and not the others. --WhereTheLinesOverlapXX (talk) 10:36, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
 * I can see that your grammar isn't very correct as above. Mcrfobrockr (talk) 07:25, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Its a discussion, it doesnt need to be grammatically correct, and that is besides the point. This is not a personal outburst at you. You changed the wording and it sounded wrong and much worse than it was originally- so i changed it back. This way, it remains correct which has served well for the article, and we can keep hyperlinks and structures how similar articles have them which is the advised structure.--WhereTheLinesOverlapXX (talk) 12:23, 16 March 2010 (UTC)

PARAMORE IS STILL EMO (?)
I don't like emo-music123 and emo-subculture. But I like Paramore.

Here there are true emo? Who can say Paramore is emo or not.

Can so to be that The New York Times and The Rolling Stone are mistaken? Dannyf591 (talk) 22:38, 25 March 2010 (UTC)

NEED TO BE ADDED (?)
I noticed in the associated acts it didnt include: Relient k; fun; and tegan and sara. All of whom Paramore WILL be touring with this upcoming spring tour starting late April; and the Honda Civic tour that is starting July 7th. Those two tours could also be noted too. Hope this (maybe) could improve the accuracy of the article. I wasnt sure if this needed to be posted yet though...

Untitled
it should say on here that paramore is NOT BREAKING UP

Green Day Stadium Tour Support Slots
The source used only states that Paramore have been confirmed to support in Dublin and Paris, but not at Wembley Arena, while I myself would love for them to support at Wembley it had yet to be confirmed and seems highly unlikely as they are confirmed to be playing Hurricane festival on 19th June. Please refrain from speculation. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Beatrix.knight (talk • contribs) 16:02, 29 March 2010 (UTC)

Josh and Jenna Farro
Hayley confirmed via twitter that Josh and Jenna got married on Saturday April 3rd also Taylor york confirmed on his twitter as well! This inforamtion needs to be added. You should responding quicker to others suggestions... these are only to help the accuracy of Paramore's wiki. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Telecasterization (talk • contribs) 02:06, 7 April 2010 (UTC)
 * If this is true, then various media sources will pick up on it and write about it. And then we will have the reliable sources we need in order to add it to the article. Until then, no.  S HEFFIELD S TEEL TALK 19:06, 17 June 2010 (UTC)

on a radio show i listened to it said that paramore was stopping their tour for josh and jenna's wedding. So i guess it is official and on the site during a behind the scenes video she says ".... josh's wife...." Punksk8r99 (talk) 02:07, 18 December 2010 (UTC)

associated bands
the associated bands bit has been deleted, even though it was a major edit and not discussed here first. i beleive that this information is necessary and i would like to reinstate it without being challenged again. so, can anyone back me up on this? --WhereTheLinesOverlapXX (talk) 06:12, 22 April 2010 (UTC)
 * There's nothing inherently wrong with not discussing; in fact, Wikipedia encourages being bold. Also, asking people to "back you up" isn't really the best way of seeking consensus. --TorriTorri(Talk to me!) 07:14, 22 April 2010 (UTC)
 * well clearly people are avoidong this because we seem so vicious about it...and very well, i will let you keep it all out of the infobox, however it is necessary and ill add it somewhere else...compromise? yes wikipedia encourages being bold, but thats how disputes like this happen and how we get vandalism, so thats irrelevant by this point. --WhereTheLinesOverlapXX (talk) 14:59, 22 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Please do not engage in personal attacks. Furthermore, the information is important, and does belong in the article, and if you read through the history section, all the bands are already listed there. --TorriTorri(Talk to me!) 18:43, 22 April 2010 (UTC)
 * I would just like to clarify that this was not a personal attack, the bands are all listed there but not under a common headline that defines what they happen to be. but i believe, that we can lay this matter to rest now. if you concur.--WhereTheLinesOverlapXX (talk) 21:14, 22 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Calling me "vicious" most certainly is a personal attack, and I do not concur. Again, there is no need to have duplicate information on "which bands has Paramore toured with". They're all mentioned in the history section, where it discusses Paramore's tours. --TorriTorri(Talk to me!) 21:50, 22 April 2010 (UTC)
 * I didnt mean to call you vicious, i meant the situation was....slightly removed from everything else? I know that they are all mentioned in the history section, but they were nor refered to as a common thing which was why they were put under a category in the infobox. Clearly, since it has been left alone in the past, it is necesary to group them for better understanding. --WhereTheLinesOverlapXX (talk) 06:10, 23 April 2010 (UTC)

Third opinion: The extra paragraph about bands they've toured with seems excessive. The info is already there in the history section, and it seems to be unnecessary to dupliate that information. As a side note, the associated acts section of the infobox would be for bands that, say, spun off from Paramore - like if two of the members had a side project or something. —  Hello Annyong  (say whaaat?!) 15:43, 25 April 2010 (UTC)

Edit request from Andvan93, 2 May 2010
Paramore headlined Bamboozle 2010 with Drake and Ke$ha

Andvan93 (talk) 15:59, 2 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Red question icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please be more specific about what needs to be changed. -- &#47; MWOAP &#124;  Notify Me &#92; 16:04, 2 May 2010 (UTC)

Proseline
I've marked this article for proseline - specifically the History section. There are all of these little one-liners about how the band played a show once, and how they announced this upcoming single, and so on. All of those need to be combined into actual paragraphs, and the person who does that needs to also read through and make sure that WP:TRIVIA and WP:INDISCRIMINATE are not being violated. I honestly believe that a decent amount of it can be trimmed down. And as always, I'd like to hope that editors aren't purposefully turning this into a fansite with these little one liners. —  Hello Annyong  (say whaaat?!) 19:21, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

Spelling Edit
Under the Awards section, Kerrang! Awards 2010 Best Album is spelt Albun. —Preceding unsigned comment added by TheAccomplice (talk • contribs) 07:03, July 31, 2010
 * ✅ by . —  Hello Annyong  (say whaaat?!) 13:48, 31 July 2010 (UTC)

Music Genres
The band doesn't play "alternative pop" music, they play "alternative rock", so can someone edit it, please? It is clearly said, the band had mentioned it a lot of times, that they play Alternative Rock and Pop Punk, not Emo or Alternative pop. I'd be very glad if someone changes it. Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.162.38.229 (talk) 00:28, 21 October 2010 (UTC) Yeah, Paramore are not a pop band - they need an 'alternative rock' tag. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.148.53.139 (talk) 11:53, 16 November 2010 (UTC)

okay i myself admit there are a couple songs that sound like they can be alternative pop but they mostly due alternative ROCK Punksk8r99 (talk) 00:11, 16 December 2010 (UTC)

Edit request from 134.253.26.9, 17 December 2010
Could some either unprotect this article, or fix the citation errors? This is the last remaining article in Category:Articles with broken citations, which I have been clearing out over the past couple weeks (was up over 300 articles). I may put in a request at WP:RFPP since 2020 seems like a very long time for an article to be protected. Thank you very much.

134.253.26.9 (talk) 22:21, 17 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes check.svg Done Dabomb87 (talk) 22:42, 17 December 2010 (UTC)

Edit request from 75.194.232.8, 20 December 2010
In the first line, right after "Franklin, Tennessee," there should be a comma before "formed in 2004."

75.194.232.8 (talk) 19:15, 20 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes check.svg Done Logan Talk Contributions 01:18, 21 December 2010 (UTC)

Josh Farro's Blog
There has been lots of speculation whether the blog post from 'Josh and Zac' is actually legitimate or not. On the official Paramore.net site, it is stated in the official announcement that there was a blog like this going around that wasn't true.

Along with that, there are several things in the blog post that actually aren't true with Paramore - For example, the shift of members in and out of the band in their early years. I think this should be taken off this article until it can be verified that this is an official statement from Josh and Zac Farro. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dem467 (talk • contribs) 16:29, 28 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Its true, the same website the original post was made on later had a video by Josh Farro uploaded to it, confirming the blog post was legitimate. - Jer '' 757  18:56, 28 December 2010 (UTC)
 * It's now been verified and sourced within the article. --TorriTorri(talk/contribs) 23:46, 28 December 2010 (UTC)

== Edit request

==

Hayley Williams has confirmed that Justin York will replace Josh Farro and John Freese will replace Zac Farro on Paramore's upcoming tour in South America. They are not the permanent replacements for the Farro brothers though.

source: http://twitter.com/yelyahwilliams/status/20653060862775296
 * Red question icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please be more specific about what needs to be changed. Logan Talk Contributions 02:45, 4 January 2011 (UTC)

Genre
Paramore are power pop are they not? What's this mess I'm looking at the genre table? Where did you get emo from? They sound nothing like Jawbreaker or Rites of Spring.-- F-22 Raptör Aces High ♠ 23:52, 3 January 2011 (UTC)

Personally, I also took a bit of issue with the emo label, but I wouldn't characterize them as any genre that doesn't imply rock since they're definitely a rock band. Paramore is included in Wikipedia's list of pop punk bands here. Since punk implies rock, I'd say that would be more fitting. Gantiganti (talk) 02:33, 5 January 2011 (UTC)Gantiganti


 * I never said they weren't rock, but in what definition does Paramore's sound fit in with punk music? What I hear is a commercialized, corporate guided pop-rock band. I don't know where people got the definition that this band is pop punk, or emo. This is what the mass media is wanting people to think I suppose, and they misguide them into it. Some bands are more forgivable than others but Paramore emo? What the fuck? Emo is short for emotive hardcore. Established in the mid 80s by bands like Rites of Spring and Jawbreaker. Put in a Jawbreaker album and compare it to Paramore and at the end there will not be one thing to compare them to. I don't want to boast myself, but I'm far more reliable than that Rolling Stone article used as a source, or almost anything Rolling Stone writes for that manner. I'm a musician myself, I study music, I write music, I play music. I should know a thing or two about it, especially the music sociology and the bands surrounding it.-- F-22 Raptör Aces High ♠ 05:27, 5 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Both Rolling Stone and The New York Times are reliable sources. Could be wrong but I think comparing Paramore to other bands, by listening and comparing their music, to determine a genre falls into original research. Wither or not you are more reliable than Rolling Stone is irrelevant, everything has to be verified by a reliable source.


 * As for the genres, after checking for more sources, MTV bio described them as "power-pop-punk fivesome"; the music section of The New York Times states "Paramore is a fizzy emo band [...] Paramore is loosely affiliated with the world of emo"; the allmusic bio describes their music as a "blend of emo-pop and anthemic rock" while their review of Riot! states "punk-pop tales with emo angst" (Note:emo-pop redirects to emo); NME Riot review - "[All We Know Is Failing] summed up everything emo was in 2005 [...] Its attempts to branch out further than emo are ridiculously misjudged this time." NME Brand New Eyes Review - "If you just so happen to be one of the best in the up-tempo pop-smattered emo-punk game, why bother slowing down? For this lot, more is most certainly more."; Stylus Magazine - "Emo has changed enough that music about actual emotions is a rather quaint idea, making Paramore as much a throwback as the vanguard of a new generation"; Ultimate Guitar - "Genre: Alternative Rock, Pop Punk, Emo"; Drowned in Sound - "Platinum-selling, Wembley-filling, emo-punks Paramore [...] Lyrically, brand new eyes sees the band on starkly confessional form. This may seem unsurprising; after all, sleeve-hearted angst is the bread and butter that keeps the filling of pop-punk-emo together in Paramore's own particular brand of sarnie (although for them it's probably more of a sub.)"; BBC - "If you didn’t like Paramore before, their third album is unlikely to sway you. They make the kind of forceful, commercial emo-pop that music lovers love to hate. However, as forceful, commercial emo-pop goes – and it does – brand new eyes is very good. It is brash and gauche, but charming."


 * So there are enough sources for emo to be included? HrZ (talk) 06:34, 5 January 2011 (UTC)
 * They're not emo. All of these sources are wrong. Allmusic is full of shit most of the time, they invent their own genres for Christ sake, and they call power metal bands death metal. Does Paramore have a thickened melodic hardcore punk sound? No they don't. Saying that, right off the bat, Paramore aren't emo. The problem is with these sources is that their entirely based off mainstream culture, where the original D.C. Emo establishment is completely unrecognized due to the fact it is part of the counter-culture. and when one "professional" (mis)uses the word emo for a band like Boys Like Girls or whatever the trendy scene listens to these days, they'll get the message, spread the word, and everyone misuses it. They're not even punk, I can't point out one punk thing about them, and notice how these sources you use don't point out how Paramore are related to punk. Also saying that Paramore and Jawbreaker cannot be compared is original research and unverifiable goes to show you how little you know of these bands.-- F-22 Raptör Aces High ♠ 22:36, 5 January 2011 (UTC)
 * It doesn't matter if those sources are wrong, Wikipedia is about verifiability, not truth. Trying to change the content where existing, acceptable sources already exist to include your own opinion is against the fundamental principles of Wikipedia, and will get you nowhere. Wenttomowameadow (talk) 23:56, 5 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Wenttomowameadow is exactly correct. Whether you think the sources are right or not is irrelevant; as long as the sources are reliable, they can and should be used. —  Hello Annyong  (say whaaat?!) 23:58, 5 January 2011 (UTC)

Wow, I can't believe what I'm readying, so if "Allmusic" or Rolling Stone said that Paramore is Metal, you would include that in Genres, right? Because "doesn't matter if it's true or not, what it matters is the source is reliable". I agree with the person who started this topic. IF YOU KNEW ANYTHING ABOUT EMO OR PUNK POP OR MUSIC ITSELF, you would know that Paramore doesn't belong in those genres, as he said, they're misleading people into thinking they are. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 200.121.153.224 (talk) 18:12, 20 February 2012 (UTC)

Edit request from Paramoreislife, 5 February 2011
Paramore is a Alternitive rock band — Preceding unsigned comment added by Paramoreislife (talk • contribs) 18:45, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
 * ❌. We're not going to keep having battles over the genres. Find some reliable sources and maybe we'll consider it. —  Hello Annyong  (say whaaat?!) 20:25, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

Blaphemy?
I read in Rolling Stone that Josh Farrow and His bandmate decided to leave the group because they thought some of Hayley Williams lyrics were blasphemous. The example given was the lyric in one song Williams wrote which stated the truth has never set me free ,which they stated was a contridiction of what Jesus said. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 4.229.42.116 (talk) 23:12, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

Edit request from k-leigh_93, 17th Febraury 2011
Request for main photo change. The band no longer has all people in that photo, therefore it should be changed to a photo of the remaining three members.

Here is a photo I suggest could be put in: http://d2ceoshttpcontent.com.edgesuite.net/d2ceoscontent/photo/pro/default-group/paramorenet-ugc-folder/2011/02/15/c875b697-d769-4f0e-a169-5a0601849176_8.jpg — Preceding unsigned comment added by K-leigh 93 (talk • contribs) 08:53, February 17, 2011
 * ❌. Pictures need to be appropriately licensed, and that random one that you just uploaded does not meet that criteria. —  Hello Annyong  (say whaaat?!) 13:24, 17 February 2011 (UTC)

You do not need to use the photo that I have suggested. I just believe that it needs to be changed due to the recent change of the band members. It should be a photo of the remaining three members (Hayley Williams, Taylor York and Jeremy Davis). — Preceding unsigned comment added by K-leigh 93 (talk • contribs) 05:46, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

How about this one? It can be reused, but not commercially. http://www.flickr.com/photos/partywounds/5174124977/ Goldieloxie (talk) 00:06, 8 August 2011 (UTC)

Zac Farro's New Band error
Half Noise (originally "Tunnel") was the name of Zac's side project after he left Paramore, he made it very clear that it was only a side project. In mid February, however, Zac replaced Tyler Ward as the drummer for Josh's band Novel American. I understand that this is more of a point about Novel American than it is about Paramore, I just think that if the new bands formed by the Farro brothers are going to be mentioned then this should be mentioned too. Unkiesam 26 (talk) 17:16, 6 March 2011 (UTC)

The Farro Brothers
The Farro brothers are no longer a part of Paramore. Therefore, there really isn't any need for the mention of them forming Novel American and Half Noise, or beyond the breakup section unless they have direct interaction with the band. Can we leave the details of NA and Half Noise to thier respective pages, please? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.155.252.249 (talk) 03:50, 21 March 2011 (UTC)

They *were* a part of Paramore, it's only standard to include what band they moved to in the article. It has to do with Paramore, so it's on here. Goldieloxie (talk) 00:02, 8 August 2011 (UTC)

Paramore Genres
Hey guys! I don't think alternative Rock & Emo is fit anymore for paramore's music. Emo has more screams and shallower words, while in alternative rock there's a lot less guitar solos and slower tempo. The closest geners that goes fine with paramore I assume are - Rock, Pop Rock, Alternative Metal (they are very similar in the style to 3 days grace and breaking benjamin)..

thnx! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Amiramaz (talk • contribs) 09:13, 23 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Please read WP:OR and WP:V. Emo is sourced. Wither you agree with it or not is irrelevant. Also, see the previous discuss on this. HrZ (talk) 12:25, 25 June 2011 (UTC)

Emo is thoroughly sourced. I'm kind of tired of people vandalizing this article by removing it. AllMusic describes Paramore as one of the primary contributors of "emo pop" at the AllMusic guide for music genres and subgenres here. And the style "emo pop" is described at the Wikipedia article here, again making reference to paramore through the AllMusic citation. To specify, why not replace "emo" with "emo pop" in the infobox? That's just something I think you should all consider. Emo pop may be a more appropriate description.--  ♫ Chris-B-Koolio ♫    ... (Talk)  18:31, 11 July 2011 (UTC) Um, no ma'am. Paramore is not pop. Just because they have one song that is considered 'popular' or 'pop' does NOT make the band pop. Thank you very much; have a nice day. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Paramoreisnotpop (talk • contribs) 00:22, 14 December 2013 (UTC)

Genre
Paramore is Alternative Rock or Punk Rock music, as it's written at their label. — Preceding unsigned comment added by NereaSV (talk • contribs) 23:07, 10 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Please read Paramore Genres as well as the previous Genre discussion. All genres are sourced by third-party sources, including emo. HrZ (talk) 11:52, 12 December 2011 (UTC)


 * this band is pop-rock..not is pure pop and not pure rock — Preceding unsigned comment added by 177.48.145.142 (talk) 07:07, 25 December 2011 (UTC)

Paramore is punk/pop punk band, but it ain´t emo. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.104.240.2 (talk) 19:04, 20 April 2012 (UTC)

I agree, it's music is alternative rock but their style has a emo side. But this is the point emo is a style not a genre.
 * I can tell by that comment alone you have no clue on the history of emo music. Alternative rock has little meaning other than a social umbrella. I frankly have yet to be disproved how Paramore are power pop but that's Wikipedia for you, using sources that don't even have merits in the music world.98.113.206.187 (talk) 02:04, 6 July 2012 (UTC)

Record Company PR
This article is written like it's the Atlantic Records PR description. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.23.193.156 (talk) 10:13, 30 May 2012 (UTC)

Edit request from Tomvasseur June 17 2012
It is only a minor detail, but shouldn't the sentence: "He further accused Hayley Williams of being manipulated by her management"‡ be the other way around, namely "He further accused Hayley's management of manipulating her." This is the feeling I get from the blog, and it seems more logical to accuse the manipulator instead of the manipulated.

‡To be found under the section on the departure of Josh and Zac Farro --Tomvasseur (talk) 12:42, 17 June 2012 (UTC)

Section division from Brand New Eyes to Self-Titled Album
It seems as if the Singles Club-era information in the band history should be actually put under section 1.4.2, not section 1.5 (currently about both the Singles Club and Paramore). Paramore is being seen as turning a new page in Paramore's history as a band while Singles Club was released more as a reactionary EP to the Farro brothers' leaving. Mattimis (talk) 07:14, 26 January 2013 (UTC)

Add pop rock to the music genres.
Because of the bands recent signals, pop rock should be added to the music genres. The new signals introduce a more pop sound then the previous albums. The songs in question are Now, and still into you, on the bands 4th album.

The sources i used are listed below.

http://www.hypable.com/2013/03/14/paramore-release-lyric-video-for-new-song-still-into-you/

http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2013/jan/26/paramore-interview-three-piece

On the guardian at the end of the articles misery business is called a pop rock song.

Also i have found this, this Wikipedia page claims still into you, is pop rock.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Still_Into_You

I believe pop rock should be added to the music genres.

--Zipzip143 (talk) 02:46, 18 March 2013 (UTC)

Further pop rock reference at Rolling Stone. http://www.rollingstone.com/music/videos/paramore-rock-the-house-in-still-into-you-20130409

At this point, anyone suggesting that they aren't pop rock is actively ignoring references! 5.68.25.200 (talk) 14:30, 13 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Not being included in the infoxbox isn't saying they aren't pop rock. However, the references only appear to apply to one song (hypable.com makes no mention of pop anywhere and Wikipedia articles cannot be used as a reference on Wikipedia) and not the band's entire sound. That is no where near enough sources to warrant inclusion in the infobox. The Guardian article does make mention of "punk-poppers" though, and pop punk is already included. HrZ (talk) 14:59, 13 April 2013 (UTC)

Emo is not a music genre
As you can see, emo is a style of rock music, so it's not a genre. So it should not be added to the genre list. --Stryn (talk) 17:44, 19 March 2013 (UTC)


 * Is it though? These sources say otherwise:
 * From The Age called emo, which is a new stylish genre of music'.
 * From Gigwise EMO: A History Of The World's Most Talked About Music Genre
 * From The Los Angeles Times the subgenre called emo
 * From Allmusic This spin-off genre attracted
 * From The Edmonton Sun a demonstration of the musical genre known as "emo"
 * From PC World his love for 'Emo' - a genre of music described as
 * From Defamer a hilariously rubbish genre of music
 * From the University of Connecticut One of the most revolting newer genre names is "emo."


 * Also, if it's a style, how come it has the genre infobox? And even from the article:
 * "The genre emo inspired a backlash"
 * "emo as a genre retreated, reformed, and morphed"
 * It's also in the category Punk genres

—Michael Jester (talk &#183; contribs) 21:49, 19 March 2013 (UTC)
 * And, sources saying Paramore are of the genre emo:
 * From NME It pissed off emo kids and pop purists alike by falling between the two camps while being a great example of both genres.
 * From Stylus cited as the first emo group ... establishing what would become a near standard for the genre
 * From Ultimate Guitar Genre: Emo

"As you can see, emo is a style of rock music, so it's not a genre." Question, is this because it states this on the wiki article or a source from the article? As far as I'm aware, Wikipedia articles can't be used as sources. There are certainly enough sources in support of emo, provided by Michael Jester and also myself in the previous discussion. When searching Paramore and emo, there are 600 hits in the Google news archives, so finding more sources in support wouldn't be too difficult. There was no real need for the edit warring, and as far as I can tell, it was removed based on the opinion of User:Bens dream (due to a lack of sources provided to back his statement that "Paramore are not emo"). HrZ (talk) 15:11, 20 March 2013 (UTC)


 * Well, I wrote my comment to just start to discuss about this article. I really don't have any opinions, is it a genre or style or what. But yes, if there is many sources which tells that emo is a genre of Paramore, then it's ok. --Stryn (talk) 16:12, 20 March 2013 (UTC)
 * That's fair enough, I was just curious. HrZ (talk) 12:12, 21 March 2013 (UTC)

The song "Still Into You" has already been released
The song and second single "Still Into You" has already been released, could someone add this underneath the phrase saying that the first single "Now" has been released? — Preceding unsigned comment added by HappyHogJens (talk • contribs) 22:07, 20 March 2013 (UTC)

Touring members - Zeke Mountain
I'm pretty sure he wasn't ever a touring member, he just played "Misery Business" with them that one show -- much like how Paramore often pulls audience members to sing the bridge, sometimes they give people Taylor's guitar and let them play the solo. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.139.169.104 (talk) 20:43, 20 May 2013 (UTC)