Talk:Paratime series

Merge from Kalvan series
Per sources above and Articles for deletion/Kalvan series, I am not seeing sources that suggest Kalvan series has a stand alone notability (WP:SIGCOV-meeting treatment) sepaate from the Paratime series. I recommend discussing both in one article. Technically, a merge can be done, but the problem is that both articles consit of 99% plot summary; frankly, WP:TNT and start anew might be good, although we might risk loosing valuable content from talk page (Cunard's sources) which have much more encyclopedic value than the plot summaries we have right now. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 06:38, 6 August 2023 (UTC)


 * I'll take a look at Kalvan series sometime soon. This article was relatively easy to bootstrap some referencing from sources with sigcov, given Cunard's work. While the other one may be tighter I think it's worth a try, given the sense I got in the AFD that readers seemed to think of them as distinct enough to merit separate articles. If I don't get to it today, I should be able to tomorrow. &mdash;siro&chi;o 06:52, 6 August 2023 (UTC)
 * If you can save both, great. Let me know when you'd like to hear from me if you think you are done, I'll be happy to re-review this. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 07:16, 6 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Not done, of course, but I've added a reception section to Kalvan series. I think even if we stripped it to the bones with just a paragraph or two of plot summary, we could write a solid start-class article about the series. Also, becoming a little more familiar with the material, I do understand the hesitance in merging them, on the part of people who were already familiar. The series are conceptually very different, indeed, despite one growing out of the other, and the change in authorship after the first book of this series does seem to have been meaningful. &mdash;siro&chi;o 09:28, 8 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Hmmm, so far what I see suggests reviews of books, but not of the series. I'll wait for you to finish your work. I'll also encourage you to copypaste any relevant content to articles about the books, which currently look very bad (ex. Siege of Tarr-Hostigos) and others. IMHO the cited review of Don D'Ammassa, for example, helps to suggest notability of that book, but does little for the series itself. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 09:39, 8 August 2023 (UTC)
 * For Kalvan, the feel of most of the coverage is that each book is an installment in the series (for example in Silver, 5/6 paragraphs have coverage related to the series, only one is entirely dedicated to the book). If the question is SIGCOV for GNG, Major, SFE, and Silver is an ideal WP:THREE to demonstrate GNG for the series, in my opinion. If the question is what's best for Wikipedia, I think separate articles with appropriately generous mentions of one another is probably the right way to go.
 * I can dig a bit more out of the three sources I mentioned for the reception section, sometime.
 * I will indeed try to add the sourcing into the individual book articles if nobody gets to it first. &mdash;siro&chi;o 10:09, 8 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Closing, given the article improvement, stale discussion and no support for the merge. Klbrain (talk) 23:02, 1 December 2023 (UTC)