Talk:Parliament House, Canberra

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Martyman, I noticed your comment on Adam's talk page. I thought the map was rather imprecise, so far as pointing the location of Parliament House. A map with a smaller scale (say, the central Canberra area rather than the whole ACT) would be better. -- Chuq 09:12, 15 Nov 2004 (UTC)
 * Oh well, no map then. Drawing a map of central Canberra with enough detail to be useful would be very hard work. Martyman 10:08, 15 Nov 2004 (UTC)

distance from Sydney
Can somebody update the article with an explanation as to how, despite Section 125 of the constitution requiring the capital to be "not less than one hundred miles from Sydney" it ended up being 200+ miles from Sydney? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 60.240.69.86 (talk) 06:11, 29 April 2014 (UTC)

Corrections
The Commonwealth acquired control over the land making up the ACT, but not ownership of already alienated parcels of land, for example the extensive holdings of the Campbell family. Land was purchased as it became available, but the final freehold parcel was not acquired until the 1990s.

The Victorian State Parliament voluntarily vacated their Parliament House - this was not forced on them. I recommend Gavin Souter's excellent "Acts of Parliament" as a history of the years up until 1988, including those early years in Melbourne. The State Parliament House actually wasn't that great as a meeting chamber, being poorly ventilated. Pete 09:28, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Photos
I have heaps of photos relating to Parliament House. See what you can do with them:
 * Aw C'mon, there's gotta be space for at least one shot of the lobby area with those hugh pillars!


 * Where would you suggest? The article is pretty chocked full of photos now. When it gets expanded further it will have room to add more photos. The only thing I could suggest woul dbe to replace Image:ParlamentHouseACT.jpg but that would replace the only photo that shows the location of the building relative to old parliament house. --Martyman- (talk) 10:01, 13 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Yeah see what you mean, it's just those pillar's to me are one of the main features of the new Parliament House. Anyway I've uploaded two versions of the Image:Old and new parliament houses across lake.jpg, Image:Old and new parliament houses across lake02.jpg is a brighter version, and Image:Old and new parliament houses across lake crop.jpg is a closer crop. I like Image:Old and new parliament houses across lake02.jpg, as to me the composition is better and also the closer crop is pretty much 1:1 of the original photo and isn't that sharp/clear. --Fir0002 07:04, 14 December 2005 (UTC)
 * I think the cropped version would probably look better as a thumb. But anyway I replaced the image in the article with Image:Old and new parliament houses across lake02.jpg there might be a few other article around that it would suit too. I agree the pillars in the foyer are an impressive design feature of the buildign and it would be nice if there was room to add them to the article. Unfortunatly they may hav eto wait until someone expands it further. --Martyman- (talk) 08:32, 14 December 2005 (UTC)
 * To me, as a non-Austrailian, the most striking photos of the Parliment House are the top-down aerial photos. Of course, I assume it's fairly hard to get a non-copyrighted photo...although I do know that, in the US, if a picture is taken by the government it cannot be copyrighted --that may not be the case here and I don't want to guess without knowing.  Bobak 18:49, 18 January 2006 (UTC)
 * It's definately not the case in Australia.--nixie 22:18, 18 January 2006 (UTC)
 * With the way things are going, it would be nigh impossible to get such a shot from a member of the public. (Can you imagine? A chartered plane with a Wikipedia photographer on board flying to Capitol Hill?!) Dysprosia 22:32, 18 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Mabye from a hot air balloon, they still fly over Parliament House.--nixie 22:35, 18 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Interesting. Don't drop the camera if you do ;) Dysprosia 22:41, 18 January 2006 (UTC)

Layout
I was of the view that Parliament House is divided into 4 quadrants, one for the Prime Minister, with a courtyard, one for ..... - Matthew238 07:45, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

Correct. The building is divided into four quadrants - the main entrance and Great Hall etc facing north-east towards the Lake, the Ministerial wing to the south-west, with the PM's office at the far end facing his courtyard, the House of Reps to south-east with its own entrance, and the Senate to the north-west likewise. Adam 08:07, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

Featured Article
This article has great potential, I am making it my personal mission to make this a feaured article by the end of the Year. If no one wants to help me - fine. This article is important and deserves to be much better.

I have a Mission! User:Dfrg.msc 10:48, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Check out Palace of Westminster, United States Capitol and Michigan State Capitol as templates for any featured article drive.--cj | talk 00:26, 27 July 2006 (UTC)


 * A to-do list might be a helpful way of breaking down the task. Happy to help on specified components.--A Y Arktos\talk 00:29, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

User:Dfrg.msc 00:02, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Same goes with Old Parliment house! How could this be overlooked?


 * Im trying to get the Co-ordinates for Parliament House, but if any one has them tell me. United States Capitol has Co-ord's and it looks pretty proffensional.

Dfrg.msc 09:19, 8 August 2006 (UTC)


 * Co-ords for Parliament House are shown in this image. I <3 Google Earth.  Daniel . Bryant  08:28, 15 August 2006 (UTC)


 * Added co-ords to article.  Daniel . Bryant  08:31, 15 August 2006 (UTC)


 * Beautiful peice of editing Dan. Dfrg.msc [[Image:DFRG. MSC.jpg|10px|User talk:Dfrg.msc]] 01:37, 18 August 2006 (UTC)


 * Ive requested help from Featured Article Help Desk/Requests. Dfrg.m s c 1 . 2 . 3 09:50, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

"At the request of the Victorian Parliament"?
The article currently states that: "Parliament met in the 19th century edifice of Parliament House, Melbourne, at the request of the Victorian State Parliament...". Is this actually correct? (and con somebody provide a reference?). Or perhaps was it at the invitation of teh Victorian Parlaiment, or alternatively, did the Federal Parliament request that it be able to meet in the Spring St Building, meaning that the Vic parliament had to go elsewhere. While the statement may be correct, it doesn't seem right, and I think it should be referenced. -- Adz|talk 08:03, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

Major Consultants on the Parliament House Project
I made this template for use here:

Dfrg.m s c 1. 2 . 3 23:16, 12 October 2006 (UTC)


 * Can now expand. Dfrg.msc 04:55, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

Flagpole Material
From the article: ''The flagpole weighs 220 tonnes and is made of polished stainless steel from Newcastle, New South Wales. It is one of the largest stainless steel structures in the world''.

I seem to remember being told on tours of Parliament House that the flagpole is made of aluminium. Does anyone have any reliable references for the material the pole is made from? (I did a bit of an internet search, but can't find anything relevant that doesn't refer back to this article.) --jjron 17:30, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

It is stainless steel. It is 81 meters high from the roof to the flag. John

Marble in Foyer
Also on a tour a guide told us a few years back that some/all of the marble in foyer was sourced from near Benambra, Victoria, which is near where I live. Can anyone help me with any information on this as I would like to add it to the Benambra article. --jjron 17:36, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Hi Jron, in response to your question, all the marble in the foyer comes from overseas. The gray/green marble in the collums is Italian (Chippolino?) the pink marble comes from Portugal, the white marble in the foyer floor is also Italian and the black Limestone on the floor with the geometric design is from Belgium. Cheers, Dfrg.msc 1 . 2 . Editor Review 23:46, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

This article need sources
Sources should be readily available for many of the facts in this article. Please see WP:V. I've tagged the most controversial or "exact quote"-like of the claims with the tag. I tagged very liberally and many of these facts could be covered by one or two broad sources. I'm not saying all these claims need to be sourced to be a good article, but you need to at least tag the hard numbers: dates, sizes, counts, and dollar amounts. You also need to have several sources before going up for good article review again. I encourage you to go ahead and do so and look forward to this article being a good article. -Weston.pace 21:31, 1 August 2007 (UTC)


 * Where can sources be found? All I get from google are tourist guides and not much help to the article.  Marlith  T / C  01:20, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
 * The Internet is not the be all and end all. The Parliament House is the subject of substantial literature. --cj | talk 01:31, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
 * It seems that most of the things stated here come from people who have taken the tour.  Marlith  T / C  04:09, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
 * If someone there can work on citing the tour that'll be great. Since I am out here in SF.  Marlith  T / C  04:09, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
 * I'll do what I can. Cheers, Dfrg.msc 06:48, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

Old Parliament House section ought to be taken out
This article is about new parliament house. Not old.  Marlith  T / C  23:21, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
 * I agree, I'm going to merge a little bit of it into "History". Dfrg.m$c 23:11, 24 August 2007 (UTC)


 * Would it be better to have Parliament House, Australia to list all the houses of Federal Parliament used since federation, and then articles on old and the present houses? Wongm (talk) 12:24, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

Image Alignment
Can we align all the images left? At the moment, they are breaking up the text and headings. Dfrg.m$c 23:28, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

Citing Sources
I am having trouble finding resources, does anyone know a good encyclopedia we can use?  Marlith  T / C  04:36, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Not really, online is a good bet over one. Dfrg.msc 23:17, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

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 * The think I feel have been addressed are crossed off. Lets work on the others. Dfrg.msc 23:20, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

The s have been up for quite a while. What ought we do to it. Should we remove the facts with Fact tags on them to possibley promote this article, or keep it in and possibly place some misinformation in the article?  Marlith  T / C  18:55, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
 * I hope we can get a bit of both. Some facts should really be kept, but just can't be verified. I'll take a look.  Dfrg. msc  00:37, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
 * It's strange the first half is riddled with Fact's but the rest has little or none. I'm not sure what to do.  Dfrg. msc  07:06, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
 * I suggest we remove unneeded info with Fact tags.  Marlith  T / C  03:34, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
 * I think it might be ready for a peer review in a few months.  Marlith  T / C  05:35, 22 November 2007 (UTC)

The "state capital" avenues
I want to get in somewhere the fact that radiating out from Parliament House are major avenues each of which is named after a different state capital and oriented in its direction, and that Adelaide Avenue is the location of The Lodge. But this information doesn't seem to fit neatly anywhere in the article. Any suggestions? -- JackofOz 23:59, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

Picture
ABC has a neat picture of parliament house under construction in a current article. (Click the picture for a bigger version.) Perhaps it qualifies for use in Wikipedia under fair use, on the basis that it is significant but irreproducable? The picture shows the extent of the building underground and how it is built into the hill. I don't watch this page as a matter of course, so if the maintainers of this article agree that it can be used, it's probably best of one of them uploads it. John Dalton (talk) 12:32, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

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Aerial photo
Since the look of the building was deemed remarkable enough to be mentioned in the article, there should be an aerial photo. Caeruleancentaur (talk) 13:26, 1 January 2011 (UTC)

House of Reps pictures - grey not green
They're featured pics and all, but they convey zero sense of the actual green colour of the chamber. They look definitely grey to me, and that's not the correct colour at all. Can the green be enhanced? --  Jack of Oz   [Talk]  00:00, 25 October 2012 (UTC)

APH Internal IT Lan Speed
In view of the current political fuss over the NBN and what is 'an appropriate speed' for NBN access for the population, can anyone easily find any documented information of the Base Lan Speed (and external Internet feed speeds!) in APH? :-) 60.242.247.177 (talk) 04:03, 13 April 2013 (UTC)

Fix for recent vandalism/removal
I noticed in late July an IP editor removed a big chunk of text while vandalising this article. Could someone manually restore those sections? I would but I am afraid to get in muddled. - Shiftchange (talk) 08:22, 5 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Done. Bidgee (talk) 09:30, 5 August 2013 (UTC)

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