Talk:Party finance in Germany

NPOV
I think this statemant about the parties spending on none campaign related purposes is highly bot NPOV:

"party apparatus devoured about 38 percent of total expenses"

This is maybe true from the view of how american parties work, but not in Germany.

What do people think about that? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Seschubert (talk • contribs) 11:25, 29 October 2012 (UTC)

Sorry folks, I don't get the point of the above talk. If anybody doubts that German parties spend a lot of their funds on routine operations and party apparatus just try the annual report. The link is provided in the article. What does the acronym NPOV stand for? Khnassmacher (talk) 05:26, 13 March 2013 (UTC)

Finally I got the message, it's about "neutral point of view". The facts are straight as explained above. If you don't like the term "devour", just find another one. Maybe my English isn't rich enough. Unfortunately my native language is German. Khnassmacher (talk) 05:57, 22 April 2013 (UTC)

Data for 2011
Dear Boson, these are the data which you offered to have converted into pie or bar charts. I suppose either will be o.k. Please note that 2011 was a year without any nationwide election. There were, however, some state elections.

Revenue of parties represented in the German parliament (in million €) Type of revenue / Party - 2011 Membership dues	Public subsidies	Donations	Assessment of incumbents	Other revenue CDU	       40.1	            44.6	          21.8	                17.5	                   16.9 SPD	       47.5	            42.4	          12.1	                22.6	                   31.1 FDP	        7.4	            13.6	           6.6	                 3.3	                    3.3 Left Party	 9.7               12.1	           1.9	                 3.9	                    1.0 Green Party	 8.0	           13.8	           4.8	                 7.7	                    2.5 CSU	       10.2	            10.4	           5.9	                 3.0	                    7.5 Source: Parliamentary paper (Bundestags-Drucksache) no. 17/12340

Pie or bar charts of the above data should be inserted between the REVENUE and SPENDING sections of the article.

Spending by parties represented in the German parliament (in million €) Type of spending / Party - 2011	Campaigning	General political activity	Routine operations	Staff (salaries and benefits)	Other expenses CDU	          27.0	                  30.7	                      28.0	                  42.0	                     4.7 SPD	          24.1	                  32.1	                      28.6	                  46.4	                    10.3 FDP	           7.9	                  10.2	                      10.0	                   5.3	                     1.3 Left Party	   4.5	                   6.9	                       5.0	                  10.2	                     0.2 Green Party	   7.2	                   8.1	                       5.6	                  11.1	                     0.5 CSU	           0.9	                  13.7	                       7.1	                   9.8	                     0.4 Source: Parliamentary paper (Bundestags-Drucksache) no. 17/12340

Pie or bar charts of the above data should be inserted between the SPENDING and REGULATION sections of the article.

Sorry about the messy layout. The editing page looked much better!

Thank you very much for your great help! Best, Khnassmacher (talk) 06:13, 4 May 2013 (UTC)

Dear Boson, here are the data for another table. I have entered an additional sentence and a remark (bold face) to the text already.

Debts and Assets of Major Parties in Germany (as of 31 December 2011 in million €) 31-12-2011	CDU	SPD	FDP	Green Party	Left Party	CSU Real estate	50.8	112.5	3.7	10.6	4.8	10.1 Cash at hand (bank accounts)	95.4	83.9	11.4	21.0	12.0	35.8 Other assets	19.7	60.7	18.2	4.7	9.5	3.9 Total assets	165.9	257.1	33.3	36.3	26.3	49.8 Bank loans	33.8	42.3	14.2	4.8	0.0	4.2 Other liabilities	11.6	25.9	13.6	1.2	0.8	12.0 Net reserves	120.5	188.9	5.5	30.3	25.5	33.6 Source: Parliamentary Paper (Dundestags-Drucksache) no. 17/12340.

Thank you very much for taking care of this. All the best, Khnassmacher (talk) 16:46, 7 May 2013 (UTC)

Update on funding data
The data mentioned in the article refer to 2011. There are, however, more recent data available in the sources mentioned in note 1. The most recent year covered by parties' financial reports published on the Bundestag website is 2017. Why can't anybody take care of more current in the article? Khnassmacher217.224.209.77 (talk) 09:13, 28 November 2019 (UTC)