Talk:Party for Change in Turkey

Name?
I'm not sure "Turkey's Change Movement" is good english grammar. Perhaps "Turkish Movement for Change" would be better? --Soman (talk) 17:56, 1 July 2010 (UTC)


 * I don't see anything grammatically objectionable to "Turkey's Change Movement", although it does not seem a straightforward literal translation of the Turkish name – but neither does "Movement for Change in Turkey". There are two principles I can think of for selecting the English name: (1) use the English name as used by the movement itself; (2) use the name most commonly used in English sources.
 * As to (1), there was an occurrence of "Turkey's Change Movement" here (now removed, but stil readable here), even in the title of the presentation, and one occurrence of "Turkish Transformation Movement" here – also removed, but as I write still in Google's cache. That is all I could find.
 * For (2), which corresponds to our "common names" policy for article titles, I found only a few occurrences in English-language "reliable sources". Today's Zaman has used "Turkey Movement for Change" at least three times; Hürriyet Daily News has used both "Turkey Movement for Change" and "Turkey's Change Movement", while Sunday's Zaman has used "Turkey Change Movement". Counting Google hits in general, I found:
 * {| class="wikitable" style="text-align: center; width: 300px; height: 200px;"

! #Ghits !! Change Movement !! Movement for Change !! total ! Turkey's ... ! Turkey ... ! Turkish ... ! ... in Turkey ! total
 * 41 ||  5 ||  46
 * 19 || 26 ||  45
 * 20 ||  9 ||  29
 * 0 ||  7 ||   7
 * 80 || 47 || 127
 * }
 * Perhaps not conclusive, but this suggests that "Turkey's Change Movement" is a better article title. --Lambiam 20:17, 2 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the survey. But 80-47 is by no means overwhelming, and from what I can read there is no well-established English name for the organization. --Soman (talk) 21:37, 2 July 2010 (UTC)

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