Talk:Pasig River

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Dear Sir/Madam:

I have edited the text of your article correcting the portion of PRRC implementing the Piso Para sa Pasig Campaign. It is the Clean and gren Foundation, Inc. that implemented it in support of the Government Program. Clean and Green Foundation, Inc. is headed by Amelita M. Ramos our former first lady. We hope that the corrections can be reflected on other articles that has been distributed through the net. Thank you.

Ramon Jacinto-Socco, Jr. Project Director, Piso Para sa Pasig

Napindan Channel
For the benefit of all, I am posting a copy of my conversation with seav.

On 11:16, 5 November 2007, seav sent me this message:

"I get conflicting sources saying either that Napindan is just the upper portion of Pasig River or that Pasig River only starts where Napindan and Marikina River meet. Is there any official source for any of these? Who's the best authority to say what's the status of Napindan vis-a-vis Pasig River? --seav 11:16, 5 November 2007 (UTC)"

My reply:

Yes, the references do sound confusing about whether the Napindan channel is part of the Pasig or not. At nangunguna sa pagcontribute sa confusion yung Pasig river article.

If you can go to a nearby Powerbooks, you might be able to find Pasig:River of Life, Edited by Reynaldo Alejandro and Alfred Yuson (Metro Manila: Unilever Philippines, Inc.,2000.). It's one of three unilever-published Alejandro books covering the Manila Bay-Pasig-Laguna Lake system. I do not have a copy of the volume but that is the first authoritative source I can think of, short of visiting the LGUs involved or perhaps the LLDA.

I am of the opinion that the Napindan should be considered part of the Pasig, with Laguna de Bay being the main source of the Pasig whenever the lake water level is lower than that of Manila Bay, and vice versa when the water levels are reversed. A look a the map convinces me of this.

But obviously, since I have not made a Napindan Channel article, I'm not all that confident.

Hehe. I've been sitting here for the better part of an hour agonizing over whether I can give you a more definitive answer, but I suppose this is as good as it gets for now. I'll set my research assistant on the problem right away. (She has texted back that she too thinks of Napindan as part of the Pasig.)

By the way, if you're ever in a position to get a good snapshot of the area of the The Napindan Hydraulic Control Structure, would you mind snapping one for the Pasig River article? I've tried several times but I can never get a good shot. The ideal time would be while stuck in traffic on the bridge that crosses the Pasig. Or I suppose we could get a shot off google earth instead. (I'm not familiar enough with the google earth program to figure out how to take images of my search area yet.)

Wish I could have been more helpful, dude. Alternativity 17:24, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

I would like to solicit more thoughts on the matter....? Alternativity 17:29, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

More references to be integrated into the article

 * —Preceding unsigned comment added by Seav (talk • contribs) 04:05, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

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 * View of the Pasig River in Luzon Island, Philippine Islands, 1826-1829.png

Drainage system map
If we're considering that everything that is drained by the Laguna de Bay as included in the Pasig-Marikina drainage system, the map would be much larger and would contain most of Laguna, far eastern Cavite and southern Metro Manila as well (excluding the land that is drained by the Paranaque River). See for example this map, although I suspect the map also includes the unconnected Tullahan River system as part of the Pasig/Marikina/Laguna de Bay system. Howard the Duck (talk) 19:28, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Yes, you are correct. The drainage basin of the Pasig River also includes all the areas draining into Laguna de Bay. The current map is more related to the Marikina River. --  P 1 9 9  ✉ 20:47, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
 * I made a crop from the map linked above: File:Pasig-Laguna de Bay basin.jpg. If you think this is more useful, then we can replace the basin map. If not, we can speedily delete it. ;-) --  P 1 9 9  ✉ 20:53, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
 * This is serviceable, but what really is preferable is like what we have right now, only that it shows rivers flowing into the Laguna de Bay and not just the Marikina River basin. Howard the Duck (talk) 21:08, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
 * I agree, the File:Pasig-Laguna de Bay basin.jpg is very small and shows no rivers but I have not found a better (free) source. I have substituted it for now because File:Pasig-marikina river drainagebasin.png is really only for the Marikina River (hence incorrect for this article). But hopefully we'll find something better... --  P 1 9 9  ✉ 14:00, 5 May 2021 (UTC)

Hi surprised to see you revert the map to the Marikina basin map, considering the foregoing discussion here... Curious, why? --  P 1 9 9  ✉ 21:21, 15 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Yeah the current map that we had was really bad. If the definition of Laguna de Bay->Manila Bay for the Pasig is used, that map should suffice as that actually shows the course of the river. If we get a better map that shows all of the waterways draining to the Laguna de Bay/Pasig, then we can use that. Howard the Duck (talk) 21:30, 15 February 2022 (UTC)

Someone can make a map based from the DENR as found here. FWIW, the website says it is in the public domain, but the map doesn't show the course of the river per se. Howard the Duck (talk) 11:50, 16 February 2022 (UTC)

Finally found a good web-based and free app. Finally a decent map of the entire drainage basin: File:Pasig River basin map.png. --  P 1 9 9  ✉ 14:50, 17 July 2024 (UTC)

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History of Malapad na Bató
Malapad na Bató was a cliff located near the point where the Marikina River joins the Pasig River, and was inhabited by spirits according to early Tagalogs.

Spanish colonial period
After Guadalupe Church was completed in 1630, it eventually became a pilgrimage site for the growing number of followers of the new religion. This resulted in a decline in the importance of Malapad-na-bató as a religious site in this part of the Tagalog region which centuries later would be called Makati. As mentioned in Rizal's 1891 novel El Filibusterismo, Malapad-na-bató had lost its sacred character and became a nest of outlaws. By this time the small village at Malapad-na-bató was designated as a sitio by the Spaniards and was part of Pásig.

Revolution
In January 1897, Filipino rebels positioned in trenches which extended from Malapad-na-bató to Muntinlupa engaged Spanish troops advancing from Bosoboso. On 10 June 1897, Gen. Emilio Aguinaldo leading some five hundred men crossed the Pásig River at Malapad-na-bató during the march to Biac-na-bató.

First Republic
The first time a government referred to Malapad-na-Bató as a pueblo was during the Aguinaldo administration. After the fall of Guadalupe on the morning of 13 March 1899 during the Philippine-American War, the Americans advanced to Malapad-na-Bató and came under fire from Filipino positions in Pásig and Pateros. Filipino casualties during the defense of Guadalupe Ridge amounted to eleven dead and forty-one wounded. The Americans later used Malapad-na-Bató as a camp.

1943 Republic
In February 1945, during the Battle of Manila, the Japanese Fourth Naval Battalion which defended Cherry Blossom Barracks, passed through Malapadnabato while retreating to the east, where the Shimbu Group was located. American cavalry troopers used the same route while advancing eastward.

1946 Republic
After the war, two new barrios were formed at Malapad na Bato: West Rembo and East Rembo. In 1974, Presidential Decree No. 557 redesignated all barrios as barangays. In 2023, West Rembo and East Rembo plus some other Makati barangays were transferred to Taguig.

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