Talk:Patemm

Spam references
The list of 18 links to various articles and news snippets (many hosted on the Patemm website) adds nothing to the article and makes it look like a collection of spammed links. A couple of additional details about the company's founder have been merged in to allow for the redirection of the Grace Welch article to this page. Astronaut (talk) 00:24, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

Notability
This article doesn't seem to pass WP:GNG. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 15:30, 11 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Indeed, it is nothing short of an advertisement. Not sure of the best way to get consensus for deletion. ► Philg88 ◄ talk 22:15, Friday March 11, 2011 (UTC) 22:15, 11 March 2011 (UTC)


 * Reads like an advertisement, and no indication of wp:notability / no indication of meeting wp:gng North8000 (talk) 03:41, 23 March 2011 (UTC)


 * Needs to go to WP:AFD I think. ► Philg88 ◄ star.png 07:17, 23 March 2011 (UTC)


 * Agreed. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 07:19, 23 March 2011 (UTC)

Overview of issues
To try to put into words what we may be thinking, I think that the problem is a combination of four issues:

North8000 (talk) 13:47, 2 April 2011 (UTC) Re-edited later. North8000 (talk) 18:45, 2 April 2011 (UTC)
 * 1) Probably fails wp:Notability, especially based on references given. Almost certainly fails the SNG, probably fails wp:gng.
 * 2) Real world notability is even weaker than wp:notability
 * 3) Reads like an advertisement, and very very little content that does not read like an advertisement
 * 4) Nobody is fixing or even working on fixing #3
 * Well summarised, but is it an Afd candidate? I still believe so. ► Philg88 ◄ star.png 14:02, 2 April 2011 (UTC)
 * I think so. North8000 (talk) 18:47, 2 April 2011 (UTC)