Talk:Pathologic nystagmus

What disability if any is a result of nystagmus
The article covers a lot of interesting information about nystagmus, but so what if a person has it?

Are they disabled or impaired in any way? Is quality of life reduced? Is there something they can't do as a result of nystagmus? 75.15.215.161 (talk) 05:30, 9 February 2011 (UTC)

Generally, no. You can think of nystagmus as an abnormal ocular reflex, just like the reflexes doctors check in your arms and legs. The abnormal reflex on its own isn't usually a problem, but it sometimes indicates that there has been damage to the brain or spinal cord, which is what the doctor is looking for when he or she tests for nystagmus. So nystagmus itself isn't really a disease, but it is often a sign of disease or damage. Johnny California 05:59, 1 April 2011 (UTC)

Comment
how can i cure my son's recently aquired nystagmus?
 * please tell me you're not asking a question about your son's health on a free-for-all, online encyclopedia. cuz it sure as hell looks like it. riana 12:01, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

i can suck air into my rectum then expel is as flatus making that sound and friends laugh72.12.93.34 (talk) 03:11, 7 September 2009 (UTC) larry 23:10 6 Sep 2009

Voluntarily induced Nystagmus
There is a percentage of people that can induce nystagmus voluntarily (one source says 8% of people), but suffer no episodes of unwanted nystagmus. I am actually one of those people. There should be something added on this as well.


 * This is called voluntary nystagmus. It's rare, where people can oscillate their eyes rapidly (they converge their eyes on something very close to their eyes, practically crossing them).  It's as notable as people who can wiggle their ears. Gaviidae 12:34, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
 * I can do both. my grandfather used to be a pediatrician, and he would shake his eyes, wiggle his ears. Whatever it took to distract his patients while he gave them their shots.  Since I can do these things too, It would be my guess that they are hereditary. --68.118.77.126 03:23, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
 * I've never heard of being able to induce this condition merely by deciding to do so -- that's kinda cool and kinda scary -- but it's easy to induce this given a little prep time and an open floor. Just play the Turn-Around Game.  Look at the floor and whirl until you're getting too dizzy to stand.  The eye movement after-effect (which makes the room seem to spin) is either the same as this or extremely similar. Kilyle (talk) 01:04, 25 December 2007 (UTC)
 * I, too, have voluntary nystagmus. I was "diagnosed" with this by my optometrist, so it isn't fake. I really want to see a subsection of this article contain something about voluntary nystagmus since it is a very real thing. Sp!ke (talk) 08:32, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

I can do this voluntarily as well, along with wiggling my ears, but I'm the only one I know of in my family that can do either of these things, so I don't know if it's hereditary. I haven't been able to find any information about voluntary nystagmus, it would be nice if someone could do some research and add a section about it.Londonbrig0 (talk) 05:15, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

New User: "I actually had a friend teach me how to do this whenever I want. You basically just cross your eyes, then force them more, and more, and more. Eventually you will be in extreme pain and you eyes will freak out and shake, forcing you to stop crossing them. From that day on whenever I try to cross my eyes too quickly, they just shake, with no pain (the pain was only the first time). However if I cross my eyes SLOWLY they still cross normally. Me first doing this was about 6 years ago, and I still have perfect vision with no eye damage according to my optometrist. However, doing this may affect you differently than me. Unlike me, you may suffer eye damage from doing this." — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.105.35.152 (talk) 01:43, 23 October 2017 (UTC)

Drug Induced
I know nothing about Nystagmums, so I don't know how to include this, but I have read that LSD is known to cause horizontal and PCP is known to cause both horizontal and vertical, to a much greater extent than LSD. Anaraug 16:00, 2 February 2006 (UTC)


 * Something like that would be covered under "pathological acquired nystagmus" (being drug induced in some way, shape, or form), which the article already states "is mostly a temporary condition and stops spontaneously". Some drugs such as Lyrica, gabapentin, and baclofen all have a rare side effect of causing temporary nystagus. (Ironically, these same drugs are the drugs used to damper the effects of nystagmus). Utopianheaven 09:23, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

Drug Induced Nystagmus
Is there any documentation or studies that have shown that prolonged inhalation of 2nd hand smoke or sudphedrine can cause Nystagmus?

How about Lamisil Induced Nystagmus? I have been using Lamisil (Terbinafine Hydrochloride) topical cream for about a week and have had a very severe episode of Nystagmus along with Vertigo - enough to nearly make me fall over while sitting at a stop light on a motorcycle. I have been off the Lamisil for 3 days but am still experiencing some residual balance disorder hoping that it eventually clears up. P.H. July 10, 2006

Suphedrine (Pseudoephedrine) is a CNS stimulant on its own, most of which are known to cause nystagmus. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.114.119.94 (talk) 10:36, 24 March 2011 (UTC)

cure for sons nystagmus
There are many studies of infantile nystagmus you just have to look some were that does the research on the subject try the Dean A. McGee Eye Inst. web site and click on DR.Sitakowsky he's a top pediatric neuro-surgeon.Have you had your son checked because there are many diseases that can cause the disorder.

Gareth Grainger
Not sure whether this is the Gareth Grainger, jurist, who is Deputy Chairman Australian Broadcasting Authority.

pontine infarction
a few years back I suffered a pontine infarction; however, after having recovered a great bit and returning to normalacy, 6 months later I began having dizzy spells but resolved as quickly as they appeared. my neurologist never suggested any nystagmus secondary to the stroke my wife nor any friends suggested any rapid eye mov'mt. any sugg on transiet nystag. months after a stroke ??

unsupported japanese couple -part
"A japanese couple have made a prospection about Nystagmus and they discovered that those people usually have a better IQ than other people "

This needs reformulation, evidence backup, a change of verb and a period at the end. I have exams in two days so somebody else do it. Orimlig 01:02, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

Interesting Idea
My Taber's Medical Dictionary (16th Ed) actually states that the slow and fast states aren't necessary for diagnosis. "Constant, involuntary, cyclical movement of the eyeball." Labyrinthene, vestibular, or aural nystagmus is caused by some disease or problem in the laberynthine vestibular apparatus in the ear (including inflammation).

Other interesting causes include occupational (miners from working in darkness and near-darkness) and those who drive trains where the tracks and poles are moving constantly while the driver tries to keep his/her eyes on the center of the track (opticokinetic nystagmus). Interesting stuff. Gaviidae 12:34, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
 * "Miners' nystagmus" is now widely accepted to have been something other than a physical disease. See for instance http://jhs.sagepub.com/cgi/reprint/26/5/399 William Avery (talk) 20:53, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

Someone needs to make a minor correction: Albinism is a genetic mutation, not a disease. While people with albinism often have visual problems- including nystagmus, their lives are otherwise normal. Sunfell 01:04, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

Noticeable??
The article says, "Nystagmus is very noticeable." This is not cited. Is it the case? Is it always the case? I know someone with longtime diagnosed nystagmus, and no one would be able to tell from appearance alone. This should be cited or clarified.--Gloriamarie 09:24, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

I've got the condition and, in the vast majority of cases where the condition is more than a small eye movement, its very noticable. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.243.253.217 (talk) 18:30, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

Video
Could we get a pause button on that video? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.205.93.124 (talk) 15:59, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

Merge two types of nystagmus?
It appears that it could be useful to merge the two types of nystagmus into one article here. Some terms, such as post rotational nystagmus, downbeat nystagmus, and upbeat nystagmus occur in both articles. Facts707 (talk) 18:09, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

while this is true, if the two are combined, it should be a general nystagmus page describing the signs, with links to the two separate pages, as they are indeed two separate things. One is more associated with outside causes,(drug use, environment, etc) while the other is based more on genetic causes (physical, neurological, etc). —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gobabigurl (talk • contribs) 05:24, 19 June 2010 (UTC)

Separating nystagmus by cause, physiologic vs pathologic, is counterproductive. Nystagmus is a sign/symptom seen on neurological exam. To understand the etiology, you must know all of the potential causes, including those that are physiological, congenital, and acquired or pathological. A discussion in an encyclopedia like Wikipedia should by nature be complete and inclusive. Moreover, having separate entries is misleading and duplicative. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 132.183.115.217 (talk) 21:00, 22 June 2010 (UTC)

It is better to merge the 2 types of nystagmus but under a more general heading like "Nystagmus". If a lay person comes across physiologic nystagmus, he or she might think all nystagmuses are physiological (or think all nystagmuses are pathological if he/she comes across the pathological kind). So it's better to just merge the two most common forms of nystagmus. Guzzyron (talk) 15:20, 21 July 2010 (UTC)Guzzyron

I support merging the two articles. The distinction between pathologic and physiologic should be made in the article, not across two. I agree with the points made by the two commenters above. If no-one has objected in 14 days, I'll set the wheels in motion. T d w r i g h T 23:51, 7 September 2010 (UTC)

merging would be more useful for sufferers looking for treatment
I also support merging the two articles for the same reason as the two comments above. An additional reason is that having the information spread across two articles does not help those who are suffering from the condition. I was recently diagnosed with the condition myself and wasted a lot of time flipping between the two pages to deteremine how the conditions were different. This would be much more easily done with a compare/contrast, or similarities/differences section. Rxphair (talk) 13:05, 10 March 2011 (UTC)

Merge into single article called 'nystagmus'
It's obvious, not sure why people are discussing 'physiological' versus 'pathological', or why there are two articles. There should be a single article on nystagmus. No-brainer. Someone was asleep at the wheel. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.122.169.161 (talk) 11:03, 12 July 2011 (UTC)


 * I agree with the majority: articles should be merged. Nothing to it but to do it. Currently working on another project, but if no one has touched this when I've finished, I'll take a crack at it.

Garvin Talk 04:42, 26 October 2011 (UTC)


 * Looks like the merge has happened. Thanks to whoever did that.  Rytyho usa (talk) 00:16, 9 December 2012 (UTC)

Nystagmus brain activity related?
My wife has nystagmus. I've noticed that when she's mentally 'unfocussed' ('daydreaming'), the nystagmus drops to another level, and comes (almost) to a stand still. Also, when under stress (like: Being at the doctor), makes the nystagmus more severe. Is this a normal aspect of nystagmus, if so, should it be added to the article? If it is an unknown aspect, perhaps it should be added as well... —Preceding unsigned comment added by ChristW (talk • contribs) 08:33, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Sounds Like MS Quicksilver1234 (talk) 08:23, 25 February 2011 (UTC)Quicksilver1234
 * Jeez, don't go around telling people they have MS, he didn't say anything to indicate that - apparently his wife has nystagmus diagnosed, daydreams and goes to doctor. And, yes, that sounds absolutely normal, nystagmus is usualy considered neurological condition, naturaly it has something to do with brain Xil  (talk) 18:24, 21 March 2011 (UTC)