Talk:Patient advocacy

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Confused
The first sentence says "Patient advocacy is an area of lay specialization in health care concerned with patient education about the use of health plans and how to obtain needed care"

Is it supposed to say "lay specialization?" Just double checking. Thanks! Adamh4 (talk) 20:15, 24 April 2014 (UTC)

I thought the term "lay specialization" was a bit "churchy" and smacked of the truth that, even though some healthcare places change their names and structure, there is still quite a lot of influence on where a great deal of the money might still be coming from. Does that imply that a cleric of some sort would never be considered for such a role? Why not? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Happy Camper on Wiki (talk • contribs) 14:03, 21 August 2014 (UTC)


 * I think the term "lay specialization" is very accurate. Patient advocates are not necessarily medical (or broader health-care) professionals, in the sense that they are licensed MD, nurses, or other paramedic professionals. Their main caracteristic is that they represent patients and (home or family)carers and give a voice to those groups in different levels of the public debate --DerekvG (talk) 11:26, 14 October 2014 (UTC).

Removal of October 2014 merge tags
See identically named section at Talk:Health advocacy. —Shelley V. Adams ‹blame credit › 15:52, 16 February 2015 (UTC)

Merge
I've made a note to myself: Merge Patient opinion leader into Patient advocacy. Any remarks? I shouldn't think this would be controversial. --Hordaland (talk) 05:08, 6 March 2015 (UTC)


 * Don't merge - There's a significant difference in the emphasis within these roles: patient opinion leaders emphasize their role as patients; patient advocates emphasize their role as advocates for patients. Whereas the patient advocate's expertise is based in knowledge about how various sectors of the healthcare industry operate and interact, the patient opinion leader's expertise is based in personal experience interacting with the healthcare industry as a patient. —Shelley V. Adams ‹blame credit › 15:45, 7 March 2015 (UTC)


 * Don't merge - Most patient advocates are not opinion leaders at all. In fact, they are outsiders who navigate patients through the system, not through leadership, rather taking routes that have not been known to work before. Every patient's journey through the system is different, so there is no way to lead when the path is unknown ahead of time. —Trisha Torrey ‹blame credit › (UTC)
 * Closing given the consensus not to merge. Klbrain (talk) 16:13, 14 August 2017 (UTC)

Material deleted 7 October 2017
I noticed that User:Neutrality a large amount of WP:UNSOURCED content yesterday. In light of the final edit summary, I thought it might be worthwhile to retain the material here and look for WP:RELIABLE sources, though some portions may also need to be rewritten in a more encyclopedic style. I have included wikilinks to relevant diffs and the article (sub)section where the material once appeared. —Shelley V. Adams ‹blame credit › 16:33, 8 October 2017 (UTC)

from section Roles:

from subsection Public policy:

from subsection Professional groups:

from section Organizations:

from subsection Center for Patient Partnerships

from the same subsection:

from section Nursing and advocacy:

from the end of the same section:

Subsection headers in the quoted blocks above use so they won't appear in the table of contents; any headers moved back to the article should use normal header formatting (e.g.,  ). —Shelley V. Adams ‹blame credit › 16:40, 8 October 2017 (UTC)

October 2017 partial merge proposal
The Health advocacy article contains information about advocacy for both health policy and individual patients. Since much of the latter duplicates content in this article, I propose splitting that content from Health advocacy and merging it into this article. —Shelley V. Adams ‹blame credit › 17:08, 10 October 2017 (UTC)
 * I think a spliting content out of health advocacy is a good move. For clarity of other readers, it's important that advocating for a patients choice and rights is quite different from trying to make them healthy by telling them what to do! Talpedia (talk) 19:30, 21 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Just muttering about some slight complexity here. Patient advocacy organizations will engage in health advocacy to prevent the disease whose sufferers they represent. In some cases patient advocacy organizations can be more health advocacy organizations than patient advocacy organizations. Talpedia (talk) 22:18, 19 August 2022 (UTC)

Health advocacy
Having read a reasonable amount of public health literature I don't think health advocacy and patient advocacy are that related. Patient advocacy is "how can a patient make choices themselves" and health advocacy is closer to "how can we make patient's do what is good for them". Of course, there is an overlap in the middle in terms of "do patients adequately understand their options and health implications". Talpedia (talk) 10:10, 14 August 2022 (UTC)

How exactly does one get a patient advocacy when an unexpected situation happens? Instead of being rushed into surgery because the doctors are telling me my baby will die if I don't. Where does that ease of mind come into play? Not always is this an easy decision. Actually, this was one of the hardest decision's I ever had to make, but my daughter is alive, and that is all that matters.

https://www.hhs.gov/sites/default/files/ocr/privacy/hipaa/understanding/consumers/consumer_ffg.pdf

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patient_advocacy

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