Talk:Patlabor/Archive 1

Merge
Unless Patlabor: The Original Series can be expanded greatly, there is no reason to keep it around. Therefore, I'm recommending it be merged into this article. --日本穣 Nihonjoe 17:15, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Anyone else wish to comment on this?
 * If no one comments in the next few days, ill make the switch. —This unsigned comment was added by Skaterblo (talk • contribs).
 * This has been taken care of. The page now redirects to Patlabor. --日本穣 Nihonjoe 21:52, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

Crappy western DVD cover
replaced the ridiculous Manga Ent. 2001 DVD cover by the new one: L.E. '06 released in the NA market. The previous crappy cover art was not an official work, but committed by "Gino d'Achille" (who's this guy?). French edition had the same ugly cover and big bro always laughed at me saying the shotgun is actually an harpoon! He designed his own, he knows what he's talking about, and I later realized that he was actually right, this is an harpoon guys... LOL! Even the five-dot logo used by Yutaka Izubuchi (mecha designer) on the labor helmets is not correct (compare it with the Patlabor 2 cover!). Must be Izubuchi's trademark signature (Protect-Gear) just like Derek Riggs's Iron Maiden symbol. Paris By Night 09:20, 11 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Aww, I actually liked that artwork myself. It's very nice even if it isn't offical. Very nice pose and positioning. If it isn't offical though, better to go with the other one then. ShoutaShura 18:32, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

First Mecha Anime
Hi you guys, do any of you know if Patlabor was the first Anime to have Mecha in it? Thanks =) -Zhang Guo Lao 16:24, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
 * No, it wasn't. There have been many series with mecha prior to Patlabor. However, it may be one of the first, if not the only one, to use Mecha as a mundane tool and not a status symbol like other mecha series ShoutaShura 04:19, 16 September 2006 (UTC)
 * I'm also pretty sure it was the first to have mecha that incorporated what appears to be cloth in their body structure (something I find quite distinctive, and which ought to be represented in the article, don't you think?)

Storyline
''“The feature films follow separate continuities, referred to as the "movie timeline" and the "TV timeline." The different OVA series follow either the movie or TV timelines.”'' That's not true at all. The TV Series, The New Files and all 3 movies all fit into one continuum. The order is: TV Series, followed by The Movie, followed by The New Files and WXIII, and then Patlabor 2. Only the original OVA and maybe Minipato (I have yet to see it) are outside of this continuum. &mdash; NRen2k5 18:56, 26 January 2007 (UTC)


 * Nope there are two official separate continuities. The film timeline: Original OAV, Patlabor The Movie, WXIII, Patlabor 2.  The other continuity is: TV series and New OAV.  Parjay 19:33, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
 * There are two timelines as Parjay points out. It's evident even in the show itself where stories are told in different ways in each of the timelines. Most folks tend to think of it as a single timeline at first but it isn't. This practice wasn't uncommon for very popular series in the early and mid-1990s. El-Hazard has two totally different continuities and so did Tenchi Muyo as I recall. - ShoutaShura 06:58, 30 January 2007 (UTC)


 * Seriously? That's messed up. Patlabor 2 and WXIII are just reinterpretations of two of the episodes from the OVA. &mdash; NRen2k5 17:23, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
 * The second and third movies are closer to some of the TV episodes as I recall. There's some rehashing of storylines at various points so it's kind of hard to figure out exactly which what story is based on which version. ShoutaShura 08:49, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

Television reporter
I noticed the reporter who follows SV2 around (Momoko Sakurayama) isn't listed. Could someone who knows kanji/hiragana/etc. add her to the list? &mdash; NRen2k5 11:36, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Hmm, I don't know if she's important enough to add as a minor character. She does have minor roles in various episodes in the TV series but she doesn't do much for the core group unlike say, Detective Matsui. ShoutaShura 08:49, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Matsui is an odd one. Although he appears in the movies and the TV series, he plays a much much smaller role in the TV series than in the movies. Momoko, on the other hand, appears fairly frequently in the TV series and is even shown to follow the team around. And lets not forget the episode where she does a "Working Woman" piece on Noa. &mdash; NRen2k5 00:50, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

List of Labors
Just updated and corrected the List of Labors, however, I do need assistance with categorizing the "Other Labors"; Any assistance would be appreciated. (Oh, and I've double-checked ALL of the names of the Labors in all categories sans the "Other Labors" -Lambda &#39;00&#39; 20:18, 26 July 2007 (UTC)


 * Not sure if it's a good idea to split it up? Ominae 08:21, 20 August 2007 (UTC)


 * I'm wondering if the list of labors shouldn't be moved or eliminated altogether. It increases the length of the page by about a fourth and provides very little insight into the series.  I realize that a noteworthy feature of the franchise is it's use of mecha in non-combat roles, but it seems to me a few notes somewhere else in the article about the duties they perform would be more fitting than a laundry list of such machines the likes of which only the most obsessed of fanboys would care about.  I can see the argument in the information being retained as valid content, but it's simply an eyesore where it is now.   -Snow 12:10, 20 August 2009 (UTC)  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.117.28.204 (talk)

Patlabor 2 article
Since a Patlabor the Movie article is here, is making a Patlabor the Movie 2 a good idea? Ominae 05:49, 19 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Of course. If you are planning on doing it, please do! In fact, I can't believe we don't have one yet!  Just make sure to cite it properly etc. should you do so, and create a link to it in this article. Parjay ► Talk  12:48, 19 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Probably later. I've got a anime convention to attend to. Ominae 16:47, 19 August 2007 (UTC)

Wasted XIII article
Currently going to add characters that appeared in the OVA, voice actors and seiyuus and role in the movie. Other details that can be added are welcome as long as they are relevant to said article. As of now, it's partially finished. Ominae 08:21, 20 August 2007 (UTC)


 * Have made more improvements. Added more character info and pictures of them. Will read reviews soon. Ominae 06:40, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Nice work. Parjay ► Talk 11:30, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks! Now I need someone to have the overall article assessed later on. I asessed it as Start. I'll probably need reviews. Ominae 01:46, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

List of OVA/TV episodes
Should we include them in the article? I notice that no one's bothering to do em. Hope someone can reply. Ominae 06:59, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Not in the main article, I don't think. If you take a look at other show articles, their main article usually links to a new article "episodes of xxxxx" or "list of episodes" such as List_of_The_Sopranos_episodes. Parjay ► Talk  11:30, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

Changes in articles and all
I've made changes in main article. The list of labors would better be wikified. As for the article on Patlabor 2, it's mostly finished... Ominae 04:32, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

Weasel words in article
I've removed several examples of weasel words from the article content. Describing certain episodes as more, or less, comedic or serious than others, is an expression of opinion alone and is therefore unattributable and unencyclopaedic. It doesn't matter if it's true: please read WP:WEASEL for more information on this guideline. If you can cite critics or reviews which describe the episodes in these ways, then by all means add references for such claims. Otherwise, they're weasel words or, worse perhaps, simply opinion. Please let's discuss this rather than reverting, at the risk of WP:3RR. ColdmachineTalk 22:04, 29 December 2007 (UTC)

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Argentina: it wasnt magic kids
i think the tv channel that broadcasted it in Argentina wasnt Magic Kids, it was Fox Kids, but i cant be 100% sure. someone here knows? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jim88Argentina (talk • contribs) 03:42, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

Passing through while assessing
But is this a franchise article? The first OAV and the manga seemed to have been lumped in, while everything else gets split out. The manga isn't exactly the source material, but neither is it an adaptation; it deserves a bit more respect than coverage in the infobox and lead alone. Doceirias (talk) 05:04, 20 August 2008 (UTC)


 * The trouble with the manga is that it's very obscure, in North America at least. Only the first two issues were ever published here, and relatively recently at that. — NRen2k5 (TALK), 11:54, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

Request for comment on articles for individual television episodes and characters
A request for comments has been started that could affect the inclusion or exclusion of episode and character, as well as other fiction articles. Please visit the discussion at Wikipedia_talk:Notability_(fiction). Ikip (talk) 11:01, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

Reviews

 * ANN
 * Patlabor TV Collection 1
 * Patlabor TV DVD 1
 * Patlabor TV DVD 4
 * EX Online
 * Sequential Tart: The New Files: Vol. 1
 * Animefringe: TV series Vol.2
 * THEM Anime Reviews: OVA
 * Otaku USA
 * Mania: The Original Series Collection
 * Mania: A Beginner's Guide
 * Mania: TV Vol. #1, #2, #3, #4, #5, #6, #7, #8, #9, #10, #11
 * Mania: The New Files Collection
 * Mania: The New Files #1
 * UK Anime Network: vol. 1
 * UK Anime Network: Movie Box Set


 * Movie 1
 * THEM Anime Reviews
 * ANN: DVD
 * ANN: DVD Collector's Limited Edition Set
 * Mania review 1, 2, 3, 4, 5
 * Movie 2
 * Animefringe
 * THEM Anime Reviews
 * Mania review 1, 2, 3, 4, 5
 * WXIII
 * Animefringe
 * Sequential Tart
 * Sequential Tart: WXIII The Ultimate Edition
 * THEM Anime Reviews
 * Otaku USA
 * ANN
 * Mania review 1, 2

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