Talk:Patriarchate

One can read about "Patriarchy"
"The term patriarchy is also used in systems of ranking male leadership in certain hierarchical churches or religious bodies (see patriarch and Patriarchate). Examples include the Greek Orthodox and Russian Orthodox churches."

--Adrian from Lausanne 17:11, 5 December 2005 (UTC)

upcoming changes watch
With the papal dropping of the title "Patriarch of the West" and his prior advocacy of the creation of new patriarchs it's likely that things are going to change and relatively soon on the patriarch front. TMLutas 18:03, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

Disambiguation
The word "see","See", in reference to area ruled by a bishop, etc. is of the same meaning, in context. Hence, could a link be made with this in mind, at the beginning of the main page.

MacOfJesus (talk) 14:42, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

Sorry, I mean the article page, where it normally would be: ie.: (Patriarchate, disambiguation "see" "See"). In context it is interchangable. I think this would be helpful.

MacOfJesus (talk) 17:26, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

High Ranking Bishop
At the beginning of the article page, definitions are made of the term "patriarchate". This should be re-worded to express: Bishop with a diocese, or Archbishop with an archdiocese. This would be in contrast to an area bishop. Defining the way it is on article page: one in ten, would perhaps refer to the Cardinal, or perhaps the Archbishop only. Is mostly an historical reference. Most definations do not include the term for The Catholic Church at all. But then in ancient history this was not the case, the term was used to refer to a diocese, in modern times, or larger. (Confusing for the student). It is a bit like the term "Petriarch", which can be used differently depending on context. "Jesus leading the petriarchs from hell", would not be the same as The Petriarch of a See in administration!

MacOfJesus (talk) 18:38, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

The term, therefore, is tied in with history and context. Because The Pope no longer uses the term would be more in this context rather than claiming less jurisdiction than hithertofore, sorry.

MacOfJesus (talk) 19:24, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

Constantinople-Istanbul
Esoglou, the Patriarchate has not gone anywhere from the district of Fener, in Istanbul. The city is not called anymore Constantinople. How "you" call it cannot change the name of the city. I call Greece "Yunanistan" but if I send a letter with that word on the envelope the Greek Post Office returns it... --E4024 (talk) 16:31, 14 May 2012 (UTC)
 * The city is not officially called Constantinople, the patriarchate is. Esoglou (talk) 16:38, 14 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Fener Rum Patrikhanesi?--E4024 (talk) 16:46, 14 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Source? Esoglou (talk) 16:49, 14 May 2012 (UTC)

The modern names are irrelevant here. No one calls these Patriarchates "the Patriarchate of Istanbul" or the "Patriarchate of Antakya". Athenean (talk) 16:50, 14 May 2012 (UTC)

Help needed with Syriac Orthodox Church
Please help: Talk:Syriac_Orthodox_Church. PPEMES (talk) 18:01, 19 December 2019 (UTC)

NPOV
The article is definitively not NPOV. Historically there is no way to claim the foundation of these "sees" as historic. There were no "sees" in the days of the apostels. It is surely a very old tradition to ascribe apostolic foundation to churches in certain locations, and it is quite acceptable for some and debatable for more. There no indication that an institution like a ruling bishop existed in the first century, thus there were no "sees". This are backward projections, starting from 2nd century and later. Same fpr "apostolic succession".Kipala (talk) 14:15, 12 June 2021 (UTC)